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  • #31
    Deadon
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 9975

    Originally posted by 1911RONIN
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/globaln...pregnancy/amp/

    Just to stir this pot a little more.

    Full disclosure: I want to find legitimate problems with the vaccine. This doesn't seem to be one.


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    I mean they're still studying menstrual cycles. So what could go wrong?
    Last edited by Deadon; 12-10-2021, 9:22 AM.
    Lions not sheep.

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    • #32
      bigbossman
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2012
      • 11051

      Originally posted by Wherryj
      Sure, but the supporters will claim that it's just a random statistical event-much like all of the OTHER random statistical events seen on the VAERS system.
      Pfffttt...... you're not an economics Ph.D or a pseudo-scientist that can't form an opinion without endlessly looking for more "evidence". You're just an M.D. with real-world experience, what can you possible know?
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      • #33
        SanDiego619
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2013
        • 12012

        Originally posted by bigbossman
        Pfffttt...... you're not an economics Ph.D or a pseudo-scientist that can't form an opinion without endlessly looking for more "evidence". You're just an M.D. with real-world experience, what can you possible know?
        We need some scientists to look at data and graphs from the CDC to tell us what is really going on. Trust the Science(tm).
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        • #34
          gcvt
          Orlando, Florida
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2008
          • 13683

          Originally posted by theduracellbigd
          No such thing as 2,800 percent. So let's just stop at that stupidity.
          What is 2+2 in your world?
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          I want to be Princess Anastasia today because I feel pretty
          Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
          Kes is really just an errand boy
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          I am NOT...anything other than a schmuck...

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          • #35
            ibanezfoo
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2007
            • 11769

            Originally posted by balgor
            Uh huh:



            Preliminary Findings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons

            CONCLUSIONS
            Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines. However, more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary to inform maternal, pregnancy, and infant outcomes.

            I know the NEJM (a top 5 medical journal) doesn't meet the same "standards" as steve kirsch.
            Well, hell there ya go. I'm convinced. A website said my friends' experiences are not actually happening. Maybe they were just dreaming the whole thing? I'll go let them know that a website said what they are experiencing is not actually happening, and all those years of experience they have do not count for anything (unless they happen to get it on the "approved" website).

            Carry on.

            Baghdad Balgor and the duracell guy know whats really up.
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            • #36
              ibanezfoo
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2007
              • 11769

              Originally posted by theduracellbigd
              No such thing as 2,800 percent. So let's just stop at that stupidity.
              You're attempts at comedy are getting better. Keep at it. You managed a chuckle out of me on this one.
              vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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              • #37
                Libertarian777
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 576

                Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                You're attempts at comedy are getting better. Keep at it. You managed a chuckle out of me on this one.
                Note though if data said unvaccinated were 28 times (2800%) more likely to die... Then 2800% would suddenly exist as a metric.

                I have no comment on the stillbirth data, haven't parsed it myself to see if it's valid.

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                • #38
                  SPUTTER
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 7504

                  Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                  You're attempts at comedy are getting better. Keep at it. You managed a chuckle out of me on this one.
                  I suppose we can see now why he took the injection, lol 😆

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                  • #39
                    balgor
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1553

                    Actual Data, not Steve Kirsch's cousin's friend's mechanic's sister who is a nurse in Canada:



                    The stillbirth rate for vaccinated women who gave birth (3.35 per 1,000, 95%CI 2.71 to 4.15) was similar to the rate for unvaccinated women (3.60 per 1,000, 95%CI 3.40 to 3.81) giving birth between January and August 2021 (Figure 6).In the same period, the proportion of vaccinated women giving birth to babies with low birthweight (5.28%, 95%CI 5.01 to 5.57) was comparable tothe proportionfor unvaccinated women (5.36%, 95%CI 5.29 to 5.44)(Figure 7).Similarly, 0.93% (95%CI 0.82 to 1.06) of vaccinated pregnant women and 0.80% (95%CI 0.77 to 0.83) of unvaccinated pregnant womenhad a very low birthweight baby.
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                    • #40
                      harbormaster
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 5948

                      Infant mortality rate is the number of infants dying before reaching one year of age, per 1,000 live births in a given year.


                      IDK if an infant mortality rate is the same but it continues to decline in the United States through whatever time they have it recorded this year:

                      Year Infant Mortality Rate Growth Rate
                      2021 5.614 -1.180%
                      2020 5.681 -1.170%
                      2019 5.748 -1.150%
                      1. Compared to what?
                      2. At what cost?
                      3. What hard evidence do you have?

                      T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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                      • #41
                        Libertarian777
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 576

                        Originally posted by balgor
                        Uh huh:



                        Preliminary Findings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons

                        CONCLUSIONS
                        Preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines. However, more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary to inform maternal, pregnancy, and infant outcomes.

                        I know the NEJM (a top 5 medical journal) doesn't meet the same "standards" as steve kirsch.
                        NEJM... NEJM... Wonder if they used surgisphere data for this study too...

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                        • #42
                          Sierra57
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 5250

                          Originally posted by Deadon
                          Fake news bot peer reviewed, would have happened anyway. You know the typical answers.
                          "Anecdotal" and "mere coincidence".
                          ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                          * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                          * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                          * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                          * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                          • #43
                            ibanezfoo
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 11769

                            Originally posted by balgor
                            Actual Data, not Steve Kirsch's cousin's friend's mechanic's sister who is a nurse in Canada:



                            The stillbirth rate for vaccinated women who gave birth (3.35 per 1,000, 95%CI 2.71 to 4.15) was similar to the rate for unvaccinated women (3.60 per 1,000, 95%CI 3.40 to 3.81) giving birth between January and August 2021 (Figure 6).In the same period, the proportion of vaccinated women giving birth to babies with low birthweight (5.28%, 95%CI 5.01 to 5.57) was comparable tothe proportionfor unvaccinated women (5.36%, 95%CI 5.29 to 5.44)(Figure 7).Similarly, 0.93% (95%CI 0.82 to 1.06) of vaccinated pregnant women and 0.80% (95%CI 0.77 to 0.83) of unvaccinated pregnant womenhad a very low birthweight baby.
                            Y’all read it here. “Actual data”. Boom. Facts.

                            Well, at least the stuff they allowed to be written down…
                            vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                            • #44
                              balgor
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1553

                              Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                              Y’all read it here. “Actual data”. Boom. Facts.

                              Well, at least the stuff they allowed to be written down…
                              Yes, yes, you got me:

                              "Nagase’s source for the Waterloo data is a provincial prosecutor (comparable to a State Attorney General) who in turn got the data from a nurse who works at the hospital." Totally well sourced and publically available!

                              "People that Nagase talked to in the past are now staying completely silent. Something has made them afraid to talk. That’s odd." OMG! THEY GOT TO THEM! It's gotta be the maple syrup mafia!

                              vs.

                              "UK Health Security Agency(UKHSA), formerly Public Health England (PHE),works closely with the Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Agency (MHRA), NHS England, and other government, devolved administration and academic partners to monitor the COVID-19 vaccination programme."

                              COVID-19 vaccine coverage in women before they give birth has increased as more women have become eligible for vaccination. In May 2021, only 2.8% of women giving birth had received at least 1dose of vaccine. This increased to9.8% of women who gave birth in June,16.0% in July and 22.2% in August 2021(Table 4).In the overall 8 month period between January and August 2021 a total of 355,299 women gave birth of whom 24,759 had received at least 1dose of COVID-19 vaccine prior to delivery. For the 18,187 women where enough information was available to derive the trimester in which the vaccine was administered, 695 (3.8%) were immunised with their earliest vaccine dose in pregnancy in their first trimester, 4,487 (24.7%) were immunised in their second trimester and 13,005 (71.5%) were immunised in their third trimester.Of all vaccinated women giving birth, 80.8% had received Pfizer vaccine, 11.1% had received AstraZeneca vaccine and 8.1% had received Moderna vaccine.

                              The whole report with data from a whole country demonstrates vaccines are safe and effective over and over again is definitely all lies, sigh... They have the audacity to publically list all their data too, the perfidy!

                              Clearly too, the New England Journal of Medicine is in on it too! Never ever trust that journal that every single doctor reads and trusts to choose treatment options for you and your family.
                              Last edited by balgor; 12-11-2021, 12:31 PM.
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                              • #45
                                stonefly-2
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 4993

                                Originally posted by balgor
                                Uh huh:



                                Preliminary Findings of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine Safety in Pregnant Persons

                                CONCLUSIONS
                                Preliminaryfindings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA Covid-19 vaccines. However, more longitudinal follow-up, including follow-up of large numbers of women vaccinated earlier in pregnancy, is necessary to inform maternal, pregnancy, and infant outcomes.

                                I know the NEJM (a top 5 medical journal) doesn't meet the same "standards" as steve kirsch.

                                Seems to be a waste of snark,

                                that would be a perfectly reasonable preliminary conclusion. (from April)

                                Do you take issue with the follow up they advised?
                                What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                                Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

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