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  • IronsightsRifleman
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 874

    Federal judge blocks vax mandate for federal contractors

    Excellent!

  • #2
    sbo80
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 2264

    I wonder if they'll also merge this with the existing suits against the OSHA rule. Lots of businesses are both 100+ employers, and also do contracts with the government so it seems plenty would have standing in both suits. And both mandates are executive-branch rulemaking.

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    • #3
      IronsightsRifleman
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2020
      • 874

      Originally posted by sbo80
      I wonder if they'll also merge this with the existing suits against the OSHA rule. Lots of businesses are both 100+ employers, and also do contracts with the government so it seems plenty would have standing in both suits. And both mandates are executive-branch rulemaking.
      There now appear to be four major categories of merit: the military and federal employees, Universities and private businesses, OSHA mandates, and Federal Contractors. At this point the first two have been upheld while the other two are blocked. In the case of federal contractors the judge ruled that Congress did not give the Executive the authority regulate federal procurements in this way. That is probably a very strong point, and fundamentally different from the OSHA figuring which, I think, keep them separate. But you point out that there are fundamental overlaps as well.

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      • #4
        FNH5-7
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2009
        • 9402

        Originally posted by IronsightsRifleman
        There now appear to be four major categories of merit: the military and federal employees, Universities and private businesses, OSHA mandates, and Federal Contractors. At this point the first two have been upheld while the other two are blocked. In the case of federal contractors the judge ruled that Congress did not give the Executive the authority regulate federal procurements in this way. That is probably a very strong point, and fundamentally different from the OSHA figuring which, I think, keep them separate. But you point out that there are fundamental overlaps as well.

        The military should have to take the vaccine either. I understand that service members get a **** ton of vaccines, however, this vaccine has been politicized and for that reason alone it should not be mandatory.
        Originally posted by FalconLair
        I weep for my country and what it is becoming.

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        • #5
          Gundiver
          Banned
          • Sep 2016
          • 1030

          Why did it take that long? Can I sue for the lost time spent looking at houses to move to in the real America? Oh and Judge Baker is officially a hero.

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          • #6
            stix213
            AKA: Joe Censored
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2009
            • 18998

            Originally posted by Gundiver
            Why did it take that long? Can I sue for the lost time spent looking at houses to move to in the real America? Oh and Judge Baker is officially a hero.
            Not wasted time IMO. My best guess is the Biden mandates on private business getting blocked is only a temporary break for us Californians. The state legislature comes back in session January 3rd, and we'll probably see them create a California vax mandate on employers, and pass it as an emergency measure to take effect fairly quickly.

            I'd bet money we'll have a state mandate in effect around the April-May time frame, and unfortunately one passed by the state legislature would probably be legal and constitutional.

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            • #7
              stangallmotor
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 666

              My union just sent out a message, The company dropped the mandate! God is good!

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              • #8
                SanDiego619
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2013
                • 11861

                Originally posted by stangallmotor
                My union just sent out a message, The company dropped the mandate! God is good!
                Hopefully this is just the start!!!
                Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                • #9
                  tundraboomer
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 993

                  No word from my company or union yet.

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                  • #10
                    stix213
                    AKA: Joe Censored
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18998

                    Originally posted by tundraboomer
                    No word from my company or union yet.
                    My company says they are trying to figure out what this ruling means to the company. This whole time they have been saying it isn't the company doing the mandate, it is the government. I think they are trying to figure out how they can continue the company mandate (because there are lots of people too afraid to come to the office because a dirty unvaxxed might breath out near them), without looking like obvious liars.

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                    • #11
                      Wherryj
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                      -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                      "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                      I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                      • #12
                        tundraboomer
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 993

                        Just got word from my union that the mandate will be suspended. Hope it sticks.

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