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  • #16
    SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 11869

    Originally posted by as_rocketman
    Yes it is. I've been working pretty hard to quantify the risks. I wouldn't bother if they were negligible, now would I?

    They still seem to be quite manageable, but we will know for sure at the end of the week, with the next VAERS drop.
    You can't really do anything to manage heart damage or other jab problems. Once you inject that stuff, what's done is done. It's a roll of the dice. Too many unknowns for me.
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    • #17
      as_rocketman
      CGSSA Leader
      • Jan 2011
      • 3057

      Originally posted by SanDiego619
      You can't really do anything to manage heart damage or other jab problems. Once you inject that stuff, what's done is done. It's a roll of the dice. Too many unknowns for me.
      I see no reason to even think this might be true.
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      • #18
        bigbossman
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        • Dec 2012
        • 11017

        Originally posted by as_rocketman
        They still seem to be quite manageable, but we will know for sure at the end of the week, with the next VAERS drop.
        Myocardia is not manageable. Once the damage is done, it is done. Ask a cardiologist.
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        • #19
          as_rocketman
          CGSSA Leader
          • Jan 2011
          • 3057

          Originally posted by bigbossman
          Myocardia is not manageable. Once the damage is done, it is done. Ask a cardiologist.
          Utter nonsense. The entire field of cardiology exists because there are meaningful treatments available for this and similar illnesses.
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          • #20
            ibanezfoo
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            • Apr 2007
            • 11688

            Originally posted by as_rocketman
            Yes it is. I've been working pretty hard to quantify the risks. I wouldn't bother if they were negligible, now would I?

            They still seem to be quite manageable, but we will know for sure at the end of the week, with the next VAERS drop.
            You did see the Pfizer document release right? And thats just the first one....
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            • #21
              bigbossman
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              • Dec 2012
              • 11017

              Originally posted by as_rocketman
              Utter nonsense. The entire field of cardiology exists because there are meaningful treatments available for this and similar illnesses.
              So, there is a way to regenerate dead heart tissue? Please - do tell.
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              • #22
                bigbossman
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                • Dec 2012
                • 11017

                Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                You did see the Pfizer document release right? And thats just the first one....
                But but but...... that's not evidence!!!
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                • #23
                  as_rocketman
                  CGSSA Leader
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 3057

                  Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                  You did see the Pfizer document release right? And thats just the first one....
                  You'll have to explain what bearing you think this has on what I said. I don't see it.

                  Originally posted by bigbossman
                  So, there is a way to regenerate dead heart tissue? Please - do tell.
                  You should probably familiarize yourself better with actual monitoring, management, and treatment. To quote you, "ask a cardiologist."
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                  • #24
                    Wherryj
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                    • Mar 2010
                    • 11085

                    Originally posted by Den60
                    Back in college, I was taught that you wanted your "worst enemy" to question your data since a failure to do so would provide support for your work. And, I also see similarities between the "research" done on these vaccines and the "research" done on climate change. Debate is nearly criminalized when it comes to these "vaccines." Why the "pro-vaxers" on here don't find that concerning I just can't explain.

                    We deserve the right to know how safe these shots are and the only way to know that is by allowing full disclosure and debate.
                    In a similar vein, Einstein was challenged for his theory on relativity. 100 top scientists wrote a letter rebuking him. Einstein's retort was essentially: Why 100? If I was wrong one alone would be sufficient.

                    The number of people who agree has nothing to do with the validity of a theory. Most paradigm changes have occurred when a small group (often only one individual) questions the status quo and ends up being proven to be the only one who is right.
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                    • #25
                      Wherryj
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      Originally posted by as_rocketman
                      Utter nonsense. The entire field of cardiology exists because there are meaningful treatments available for this and similar illnesses.
                      Actually, you are both technically correct. Once the damage from myocarditis is done, you cannot repair it and neither can the body. TECHNICALLY you can "manage" the condition-via anti-arrhythmia attempts such as AICD, although that isn't a 100% guarantee.

                      I wouldn't quite put this into the "utter nonsense" category unless I was fact checking as "Snopes".

                      Trust me, I do this for a living and I have asked several electrophysiologists and quite a few cardiologists-they are all very concerned. Two of them sublease from my practice. I can assure you that they are both "very concerned" about this situation.
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                      • #26
                        bigbossman
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                        • Dec 2012
                        • 11017

                        Originally posted by as_rocketman
                        You should probably familiarize yourself better with actual monitoring, management, and treatment. To quote you, "ask a cardiologist."
                        Sure, you go ahead and regenerate dead heart muscle. "Utter nonsense", indeed. What is "utter nonsense", is taking a course of action that might well give you this condition - FOR NO COMPELLING REASON - because you can "manage" it on the backside. That is the reasoning of a foolish, deranged, or downright stupid person.
                        Last edited by bigbossman; 12-03-2021, 12:18 PM.
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                        • #27
                          SPUTTER
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                          • Jun 2009
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                          • #28
                            stix213
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                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 18998

                            1 in 2680 young males get clinical heart issues from Comirnaty in Hong Kong.



                            Among male adolescents, the incidence after the first and second doses were 5.57 (95% CI 2.38-12.53) and 37.32 (95% CI 26.98-51.25) per 100,000 persons vaccinated.
                            Last edited by stix213; 12-04-2021, 10:33 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Deadon
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 9975

                              Originally posted by stix213
                              1 in 2680 young males get clinical heart issues from Comirnaty in Hong Kong.

                              https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/1-...-acute?r=ta0o1
                              Well this should get interesting. I'm sure they don't know what they're talking about.
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                              • #30
                                ibanezfoo
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 11688

                                Originally posted by Wherryj
                                Actually, you are both technically correct. Once the damage from myocarditis is done, you cannot repair it and neither can the body. TECHNICALLY you can "manage" the condition-via anti-arrhythmia attempts such as AICD, although that isn't a 100% guarantee.

                                I wouldn't quite put this into the "utter nonsense" category unless I was fact checking as "Snopes".

                                Trust me, I do this for a living and I have asked several electrophysiologists and quite a few cardiologists-they are all very concerned. Two of them sublease from my practice. I can assure you that they are both "very concerned" about this situation.
                                I genuinely appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience in this forum.
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