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  • #31
    sigfan91
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2009
    • 10299

    Originally posted by Wherryj
    This is very likely. That is the issue with coronavirus infections. It isn't so much the virus itself that kills the patient, it is the patient's immune response to the virus. Some are less prone to over-reacting and producing a fatal inflammatory response while others are far more prone.

    The issue is that the vaccines are made with the very spike protein that causes the inflammatory damage. If you are not going to get very sick from the virus then you should do fine with the vaccine. However, those who would get seriously ill with the virus are also far more likely to do the same with the vaccine.

    This has been the bane of any attempt to produce a coronavirus vaccine, yet after decades of failure we suddenly had multiple companies "succeed" within a few months. Shockingly convenient, isn't it?
    So the people who don't get too sick from the virus won't get too sick from the "vaccine;" the people who will get very sick from the virus will get very sick from the "vaccine."

    I think I will take my chances with the virus.

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    • #32
      Gundiver
      Banned
      • Sep 2016
      • 1030

      Originally posted by sbo80
      Day after he got home he felt sick. His wife got sick the next day. Interestingly he's tested positive, she did not. Both are sick at home, not bad enough for hospital.

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      • #33
        theLBC
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        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2017
        • 6590

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        • #34
          ibanezfoo
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2007
          • 11685

          Aaaaaand now grandma is back in the hospital with heart issues. This is after being dropped a few hours after her second jab and spending a few days in there near death 6-8 months ago. Moderna.

          This sht is poison. If you choose to allow it to be injected into your bloodstream, God help you.
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          • #35
            XDJYo
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2012
            • 6503

            Originally posted by Wherryj
            If myocarditis was the diagnosis, it is permanent. He should definitely take them up on that implantable defibrillator because those who recover from myocarditis and don't have serious congestive heart failure as a risk for death still have a risk of death from arrhythmia.

            That is now a permanent state of risk for him. While the event typically happens within five years, even getting beyond that point isn't a guarantee that an arrhythmia won't happen at some point later in life. There is also getting past that first five years.
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            • #36
              Epaphroditus
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 4888

              Anyone taking the jabs should immediately (even prophylactically) should get in the vitamin protocol (C,D zinc HCQ, etc) and take ivermectin and L-Glutathione.
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              • #37
                anthonyca
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 6316

                Was he mandated to take the shots by his employer? If so, he may have a lawsuit available.
                https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                Originally posted by Wherryj
                I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                • #38
                  Den60
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 2695

                  Originally posted by Wherryj
                  This is very likely. That is the issue with coronavirus infections. It isn't so much the virus itself that kills the patient, it is the patient's immune response to the virus. Some are less prone to over-reacting and producing a fatal inflammatory response while others are far more prone.

                  The issue is that the vaccines are made with the very spike protein that causes the inflammatory damage. If you are not going to get very sick from the virus then you should do fine with the vaccine. However, those who would get seriously ill with the virus are also far more likely to do the same with the vaccine.

                  This has been the bane of any attempt to produce a coronavirus vaccine, yet after decades of failure we suddenly had multiple companies "succeed" within a few months. Shockingly convenient, isn't it?
                  Vitamin D is known to mitigate the cytokine storm response.


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                  • #39
                    Epaphroditus
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 4888

                    ^^^ even more so does ivermectin
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                    • #40
                      squeeze
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 1317

                      Ivermectin is recommended pre and during C19.
                      How does one get a bottle of Ivermectin?

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                      • #41
                        XDJYo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 6503

                        Originally posted by anthonyca
                        Was he mandated to take the shots by his employer? If so, he may have a lawsuit available.
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                        • #42
                          bigbossman
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 11017

                          Originally posted by Wherryj
                          If myocarditis was the diagnosis, it is permanent. He should definitely take them up on that implantable defibrillator because those who recover from myocarditis and don't have serious congestive heart failure as a risk for death still have a risk of death from arrhythmia.

                          That is now a permanent state of risk for him. While the event typically happens within five years, even getting beyond that point isn't a guarantee that an arrhythmia won't happen at some point later in life. There is also getting past that first five years.
                          I always appreciate your professional insight on this, so thank you for contributing. Regarding the bolded part..... I don't understand how some folks can downplay the seriousness of this, and push aside the obvious and real danger.
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