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  • #46
    Deadon
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2010
    • 9975

    Originally posted by bugsy714
    Personally I appreciate anyone who is willing to go against the narrative here on CG or anywhere else out there in the world. We need more dissenting voices and more earnest conversations on all of this stuff


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    I'm also but going against a FDA panel that said we don't know if it's safe so we have to pass it to see the side effects seems a bit odd. They just said this and Pfizer said they have no real data on side effects.
    So we're supposed to ignore those that are on a FDA panel to discuss what some doctor says?
    Lions not sheep.

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    • #47
      bugsy714
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2418

      Originally posted by Deadon
      I'm also but going against a FDA panel that said we don't know if it's safe so we have to pass it to see the side effects seems a bit odd. They just said this and Pfizer said they have no real data on side effects.
      So we're supposed to ignore those that are on a FDA panel to discuss what some doctor says?

      Sounds like an honest answer to me how could they know until it is a mass population and every imaginable congregation of factors can be explored



      Humans are incredibly complicated and there are definitely going to be groups of people with existing conditions for whom this is not a safe treatment.


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      • #48
        NRA-Rider
        Member
        • Mar 2021
        • 107

        Originally posted by bugsy714
        Sounds like an honest answer to me how could they know until it is a mass population and every imaginable congregation of factors can be explored



        Humans are incredibly complicated and there are definitely going to be groups of people with existing conditions for whom this is not a safe treatment.


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        • #49
          tundraboomer
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 993

          "Everybody knows..."

          We should be questioning the "science" that seems to be blindly accepted by the malleable amongst us.


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          • #50
            bugsy714
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2418

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            • #51
              mooner760HD
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 617

              What I don't understand is why people still respond to troll threads.
              NRA Life Member

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              • #52
                theLBC
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2017
                • 6587

                Originally posted by balgor
                What do pediatricians really know about children's health, right? If, you have children, are you saying you don't trust their pediatrician?
                who prescribed and provided addictive opiates to millions of unwitting americans that has killed over 500k of them, while millions are still addicted and often using heroin and fentanyl as a cheaper and more easily available fix?
                who approved oxycontin as a safe and less addictive drug for 15+ year olds?

                doctors, pharmacies and the fda.

                anyway, they got a lot of nerve....

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                • #53
                  bugsy714
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2418

                  Originally posted by theLBC
                  who prescribed and provided addictive opiates to millions of unwitting americans that has killed over 500k of them, while millions are still addicted and often using heroin and fentanyl as a cheaper and more easily available fix?
                  who approved oxycontin as a safe and less addictive drug for 15+ year olds?

                  doctors, pharmacies and the fda.

                  anyway, they got a lot of nerve....


                  Check out the most recent season of goliath. Pretty interesting they discuss this


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                  • #54
                    Deadon
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 9975

                    Originally posted by bugsy714
                    Sounds like an honest answer to me how could they know until it is a mass population and every imaginable congregation of factors can be explored



                    Humans are incredibly complicated and there are definitely going to be groups of people with existing conditions for whom this is not a safe treatment.


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                    You're correct so why is she saying it's safe?
                    Lions not sheep.

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                    • #55
                      balgor
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1553

                      Originally posted by Deadon
                      I dont trust anyone period. I've had 5 back surgeries and have metal poisoning along with a recalled implant that was rushed for approval. 2 years of trials and FDA approved it. Now I'm sick as hell because I listened to these people that said, "you're the perfect age for this".

                      To add, like I said above the FDA panel said they have to pass this to find out the side effects. Does that sound right to you? Why do you never answer any of these questions?
                      I'm actually very sorry to hear that. I get entirely why you would mistrust doctors. I know it is small comfort, but the regulation and testing on implanted devices is abysmal and I hope you sued and won.

                      The study was powered to rule out 1 in 3000 type of adverse events. If an event occurs in 1 in 50,000 (myocarditis all age risk) , you're not going to be able to detect it until phase IV. The 2 panels collectively voted 31-0-1 b/c a < 1 in 3000 chance of an adverse event ====> Risk Vaccine <<< Risk Covid.

                      If, you're looking for 100% safe vaccines or anything really, those things do not exist.
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                      • #56
                        bugsy714
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2418

                        Originally posted by Deadon
                        You're correct so why is she saying it's safe?

                        See the above post for the threshold of Safe that they are referring to


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                        • #57
                          tundraboomer
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 993

                          Originally posted by balgor
                          The study was powered to rule out 1 in 3000 type of adverse events. If an event occurs in 1 in 50,000 (myocarditis all age risk) , you're not going to be able to detect it until phase IV. The 2 panels collectively voted 31-0-1 b/c a < 1 in 3000 chance of an adverse event ====> Risk Vaccine <<< Risk Covid.
                          Only if the data was reliable. That is the point you moron.

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                          • #58
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 13532

                            Originally posted by balgor
                            I'm actually very sorry to hear that. I get entirely why you would mistrust doctors. I know it is small comfort, but the regulation and testing on implanted devices is abysmal and I hope you sued and won.

                            The study was powered to rule out 1 in 3000 type of adverse events. If an event occurs in 1 in 50,000 (myocarditis all age risk) , you're not going to be able to detect it until phase IV. The 2 panels collectively voted 31-0-1 b/c a < 1 in 3000 chance of an adverse event ====> Risk Vaccine <<< Risk Covid.

                            If, you're looking for 100% safe vaccines or anything really, those things do not exist.
                            Most people don't want a vaccine at all, it's being forced. That's the issue. If it were voluntary then none of this would matter - it would be like the worthless flu shot.

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                            • #59
                              ibanezfoo
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11680

                              Originally posted by balgor
                              these are board members for the AAP, an organization representing 67,000 pediatricians

                              a couple more than 1.... (the video has more than 1....)
                              And?

                              Interesting that there are also only a bit over 10,200 pediatricians employed in the US according to the great oracle Google...

                              Theres 5.5 million NRA members. How many of them do you take firearms advice from?

                              How is membership to an organization related to anything?
                              Last edited by ibanezfoo; 11-10-2021, 9:28 AM.
                              vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                              • #60
                                bugsy714
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 2418

                                Originally posted by sd_shooter
                                Most people don't want a vaccine at all, it's being forced. That's the issue. If it were voluntary then none of this would matter - it would be like the worthless flu shot.
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