Addition of heart drug into children's vaccine

[DaveInOroValley]

Didn't see this mentioned in the other thread about the children's vaccine but I may have missed it:

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pfizer-adds-ingredient-to-vaccine-for-kids-used-to-stabilize-heart-attacks/

[SPUTTER]

Myocarditis is so rare though, why? Imagine giving heart medication to a perfectly healthy child? This is beyond crazy.

[Deadon]

Yeah I posted this about a week ago. Look at the side effects just for that drug.

[Creampuff]

First. I haven’t vaccinated our teenage son because I fail to see how the risk put weighs the benefits for his age demographics.

So having said that. Tromethamine has multiple uses because of its alkaline nature. Back when we would use tromethamine for cardiac cases, we would use it when sodium bicarbonate was not appropriate. When we used tromethamine it was in quantities of 500ml. Anything like the micro amounts in the vaccine has zero alkanizing effects because it is just way way too small.

Guys - google is useful. But just because I google one article with no background does not turn me into an expert.

They are likely using tromethamine as a pH balancing agent for the vaccine

[SPUTTER]

Where are you seeing the actual amounts of tromethamine?

[Deadon]

First, Pfizer hasn't been using it until they made a dose for kids. Second, how do you know how much is being used? Third, why would they change it? Forth, it has its own side effects by itself.

[Creampuff]

Where are you seeing the actual amounts of tromethamine?

[Creampuff]

First, Pfizer hasn't been using it until they made a dose for kids. Second, how do you know how much is being used? Third, why would they change it? Forth, it has its own side effects by itself.

[SPUTTER]

I found the dosage amount in each dose. 0.06 mg tromethamine, 0.4 mg tromethamine hydrochloride, and you could double that because it's two doses. So that's a total of 920mg after two doses. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download page 12
Pfizer claims it's being used as preservative so it can store longer at lower temps but as far as I know its only in the pediatric version, so that doesn't make much sense.

[Deadon]

I found the dosage amount in each dose. 0.06 mg tromethamine, 0.4 mg tromethamine hydrochloride, and you could double that because it's two doses. So that's a total of 920mg after two doses. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download page 12
Pfizer claims it's being used as preservative so it can store longer at lower temps but as far as I know its only in the pediatric version, so that doesn't make much sense.

This is my question, why did they change it for the kids vax?

[Creampuff]

I found the dosage amount in each dose. 0.06 mg tromethamine, 0.4 mg tromethamine hydrochloride, and you could double that because it's two doses. So that's a total of 920mg after two doses. https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download page 12
Pfizer claims it's being used as preservative so it can store longer at lower temps but as far as I know its only in the pediatric version, so that doesn't make much sense.

[SPUTTER]

You lost me on how 0.4mg + 0.06mg times 2 equals 920mg

Any ways. A therapeutic dose of tromethamine in cardiac cases was using. 3600 mg per 100mL. So 500mL - 18000mg.

0.92mg of tromethamine is not going to alkanize a patient. Why they chose to use it. Don’t know. But again. It is not going to have any cardiac effects.

Right, I forgot the dot. Do those dosage amounts also apply to say a 5 year old?

This formulation wasn't the one they used in their trials so what's about to happen is more experimenting, on children this time. Regardless of the amounts in the shots, testing should be done if the formulation changes.

Correction: It's .15mg per dose for 5-11 and .46mg for adults. Looks like they changed the formulation across the board. I guess we will see how children and adults react to the new formula.

[Deadon]

Right, I forgot the dot. Do those dosage amounts also apply to say a 5 year old?

This formulation wasn't the one they used in their trials so what's about to happen is more experimenting, on children this time. Regardless of the amounts in the shots, testing should be done if the formulation changes.

Correction: It's .15mg per dose for 5-11 and .46mg for adults. Looks like they changed the formulation across the board. I guess we will see how children and adults react to the new formula.

So crazy they're always changing the Vax but can say it's safe. How would they know if they're always changing something?

[Creampuff]

Right, I forgot the dot. Do those dosage amounts also apply to say a 5 year old?

This formulation wasn't the one they used in their trials so what's about to happen is more experimenting, on children this time. Regardless of the amounts in the shots, testing should be done if the formulation changes.

Correction: It's .15mg per dose for 5-11 and .46mg for adults. Looks like they changed the formulation across the board. I guess we will see how children and adults react to the new formula.