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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 9007

    A Coronavirus Outbreak In Iowa Deer... Could Be a Reservoir For The Virus?

    So much for herd immunity. While it might seem like a double entendre, it's not... honestly. I'm not sure why this would be 'shocking' or even surprising if they wanted to continue with the notion that it came from an animal (bats) in the first place...

    A coronavirus outbreak in Iowa deer is prompting scientists to worry if the animals could be a reservoir for the virus in the long term

    A number of deer in the state of Iowa are carrying the coronavirus, according to a recent study, prompting scientists to worry the wild animals could potentially become a reservoir for the virus.

    The study, which was published on the pre-print server Biorxiv on Monday, suggests that the deer caught the virus from humans. The study says there is no evidence at this time that they could pass it back...

    The Iowa deer study, which has not been peer-reviewed, looked at 283 samples from free and captive white-tailed deer in the state from April 2020 through January 2021.

    A third of the deer samples overall showed traces of the coronavirus, suggesting they had an active infection when they died. The peak of infection among the deer coincided with a surge of cases among Iowa's human residents in November and December 2020, the study found.

    Further genetic analysis found that the animals carried strains of the coronavirus that were circulating in the human population at the time, which supports the hypothesis that the deer caught the virus from humans, then passed it from deer to deer.

    It's not clear how the deer might have caught the virus from humans...

    The concern when a disease-causing microbe is passed to humans from other animals — which is called zoonosis — is that it could circulate unchecked in animal populations.

    In case of the COVID-19 coronavirus, this could eventually lead to a dangerous mutation.

    Of course, in that case, a booster shot for humans could likely be developed, the Times reported...

    Deer hunters in several states have been advised to be careful when interacting with white-tailed deer, the Times reported, although there is no evidence that you can catch COVID-19 from preparing and eating wild game meat, per the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...
    Well no wonder they effectively closed off much of the hunting season in California by closing the National Forests. Clever ruse to do it under the auspices of 'wildfire danger.' That way, we'd never suspect it was for our own good and all, saving us the terror of catching it from animals. We should be thankful.

    Of course, if we'd just go get our shots, then the boosters, we wouldn't have to worry about the possibility anyway... right? I mean, if the deer and other animals can harbor the virus, even a true vaccine would not be able to eradicate it, so we'll have to continue to get our boosters, just to be safe.
  • #2
    CrazyCobraManTim
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 2067

    My sister in Illinois had some deer in her back yard this week.

    Should I be concerned??

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    • #3
      71MUSTY
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2014
      • 7029

      This is a great example of how a pre-print request for funding to do a study actually works.


      Actually it's pretty funny. They used a COVID test with about a 35% false positive rate to test 283 deer and found about 33% came back as positive.

      We could expect a 33% positive rate if they tested rocks.

      But this bad science is being promoted because it can scare more people into compliance and make COVID more scary.

      Did it work? After seeing this are any of you more inclined to get vaxed? Except the new normal, Totalitarian Government?
      Only slaves don't need guns

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      We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


      We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


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      • #4
        Beelzy
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2008
        • 9224

        Well, we have squirrels with Bubonic Plague, so that's not too surprising.
        "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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        • #5
          Dan_Eastvale
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2013
          • 10062

          To those of us that aren't the least bit worried about it:
          An irrelevant bit of news who's sole purpose is to force scare people

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          • #6
            OlderThanDirt
            FUBAR
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2009
            • 5806

            This is old news where COVID antibodies were found in white tail deer.

            Surveillance Data Shows White-Tailed Deer Exposed to SARS-CoV-2

            The Center for Biological Diversity and Natural Resources Defense Council tried to virtually kill international and domestic hunting by petitioning the USWFS and USDOT to require chain of custody and ban the transportation of game and products.

            Obey Resist.
            We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
            Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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            • #7
              OlderThanDirt
              FUBAR
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              • Jun 2009
              • 5806

              Originally posted by bruss01
              For clarity, the "test" being used to detect Covid-19 has an incredibly high number of false positives. A papaya came back positive, for pity's sake.

              How many of those deer were symptomatic? The trend for zoonotic viri is to be less infections and more serious when first introduced to a new species... and then become less serious but more infectious as time goes on. My guess is these deer were tested for the heck of it and not because they actually showed signs of illness... making the "false positive" scenario incredibly more likely.
              Guys, read the studies. These were serum samples that were tested for antibodies, not the BS nasal swabs.
              We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
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              • #8
                sigfan91
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2009
                • 10300

                Originally posted by CrazyCobraManTim
                My sister in Illinois had some deer in her back yard this week.

                Should I be concerned??
                Did the deer wear a mask or have a vaccine passport to enter the backyard?

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                • #9
                  sigfan91
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 10300

                  It sounds to me like "they" are about to abandon the scamdemic. They're setting up a way out. Can't blame the Trump vaccine for being ineffective, because they pushed 4 shots onto people. Hey, I know, let's blame nature. We can even work this into "global climate change."

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                  • #10
                    sd_shooter
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 13544

                    Animals are known carriers of the C19. Thus true herd immunity is impossible. The virus will never, ever be completely eradicated from the earth. It will be endemic, Flu-like.

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                    • #11
                      edgerly779
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 19871

                      Maybe some cheap non resident tags

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                      • #12
                        71MUSTY
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 7029

                        Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                        Guys, read the studies. These were serum samples that were tested for antibodies, not the BS nasal swabs.
                        Antibody test don't give false positives??? First time I heard that.

                        So we are to believe that 1/3 of the deer population has contracted COVID???
                        Last edited by 71MUSTY; 11-03-2021, 1:24 PM.
                        Only slaves don't need guns

                        Originally posted by epilepticninja
                        Americans vs. Democrats
                        We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                        We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                        What doesn't kill me, better run

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                        • #13
                          Gundiver
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 1030

                          Who the hell funded this study? Who let them test their deer?

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                          • #14
                            OlderThanDirt
                            FUBAR
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 5806

                            Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                            Antibody test don't give false positives??? First time I heard that.

                            So we are to believe that 1/3 of the deer population has contracted COVID???
                            False positives are always possible, but nothing like the PCR tests. Why would you not believe that a significant portion of the deer population has not been exposed to covid? It's not like they social distance, wear masks and have been locked down. One would expect that herd animals would experience high infection rates.

                            Covid has also been detected in numerous species at zoos. The point is that Covid-19 is not limited to humans and with other reservoirs a human vaccination program will not prevent future exposure and variants.

                            Originally posted by Gundiver
                            Who the hell funded this study? Who let them test their deer?
                            The USFWS and many state agencies routinely test animals as part of their game management responsibilities. The original data from this study was collected by the USFWS.
                            We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                            Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                            • #15
                              71MUSTY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 7029

                              Originally posted by OlderThanDirt
                              False positives are always possible, but nothing like the PCR tests. Why would you not believe that a significant portion of the deer population has not been exposed to covid? It's not like they social distance, wear masks and have been locked down. One would expect that herd animals would experience high infection rates.

                              Covid has also been detected in numerous species at zoos. The point is that Covid-19 is not limited to humans and with other reservoirs a human vaccination program will not prevent future exposure and variants.



                              The USFWS and many state agencies routinely test animals as part of their game management responsibilities. The original data from this study was collected by the USFWS.
                              Lets try some logic.

                              Latest data shows 31% of Americans have had COVID.


                              So 1/3 of the deer population is. They are outside (less likely to spread COVID) and Geographically separated. Deer do not travel and interact like humans do. The average deer travels about 2-3 miles a day and rarely leaves the area where it was born. It is not like the Iowa deer went to a Trump Rally. How would it spread??????
                              Last edited by 71MUSTY; 11-03-2021, 4:11 PM.
                              Only slaves don't need guns

                              Originally posted by epilepticninja
                              Americans vs. Democrats
                              We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                              We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                              What doesn't kill me, better run

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