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  • #31
    LBDamned
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 19040

    But, but , but... he haz 'stats'
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    • #32
      as_rocketman
      CGSSA Leader
      • Jan 2011
      • 3057

      Originally posted by balgor
      If, the vaccines are killing people, why were ~11 out of 12 people who died during the delta wave unvaccinated?

      The data is as clear as day.
      Just one thing to be aware of with these data: This is from the CDC COVID Tracker Project, and these are not whole-USA numbers. As it says at your link:

      Originally posted by CDC
      Participating Jurisdictions: Currently, these 16 health departments who regularly link their case surveillance to immunization information system data and represent 30% of the total U.S. population are included in these incidence rate estimates: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York City (New York), Seattle / King County (Washington), Utah and Wisconsin; 15 jurisdictions also report deaths among vaccinated and unvaccinated people. This list will be updated as more jurisdictions participate.
      This doesn't invalidate your conclusion, it's just something to keep in mind. If you're not aware of this, you can get some funny results if you try to extrapolate and compare against other population statistics.
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      • #33
        The Gleam
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 12268

        Originally posted by balgor
        Cases:


        Deaths:


        Link:



        If, the vaccines are killing people, why were ~11 out of 12 people who died during the delta wave unvaccinated?

        The data is as clear as day.
        More canards and skewing at work. Clear as mud.

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        What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

        If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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        • #34
          LBDamned
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 19040

          Originally posted by The Gleam
          More canards and skewing at work. Clear as mud.

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          You seem skeptical
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          • #35
            Fate
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 9545

            Originally posted by Deadon
            I'll take the real deal over the man made vaccine that's unproven with side effects that have been hidden. Covid didn't have to try and give me weed, doughnuts, a lotto, gift cards, lap dances ect. Covid just gave us covid and we still have antibodies. The Vax is on its 4th dose now? Yeah I'll pass.
            Wait, lap dances??
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            • #36
              Deadon
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 9975

              Originally posted by Fate
              Wait, lap dances??
              Lol yeah I'm sure you can still get one haha.
              Lions not sheep.

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              • #37
                HHGT
                Veteran Member
                • May 2012
                • 2862

                Notice how the article is critical about conservatives using Florida facts as political talking points. BUT notice whenever libs cite numbers as political talking points that's perfectly fine.

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                • #38
                  LBDamned
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 19040

                  Originally posted by HHGT
                  Notice how the article is critical about conservatives using Florida facts as political talking points. BUT notice whenever libs cite numbers as political talking points that's perfectly fine.
                  The last several years have proven - whatever a leftist says, reality is exactly opposite.

                  Almost without fail.
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                  • #39
                    SAN compnerd
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2009
                    • 4725

                    Originally posted by sacrvrrat
                    I know many people who have taken the vaccine with zero side effects, should I just listen to them since I know them personally?


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                    Yet.
                    "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                    Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                    When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                    • #40
                      SAN compnerd
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4725

                      Originally posted by balgor
                      Cases:


                      Deaths:


                      Link:



                      If, the vaccines are killing people, why were ~11 out of 12 people who died during the delta wave unvaccinated?

                      The data is as clear as day.
                      And yet Ireland, with one of the highest vaccination rates on the planet, is seeing 70% of the cases among the vaccinated. Why, it's almost like the CDC is cooking the books for political purposes.
                      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                      • #41
                        LBDamned
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 19040

                        Originally posted by sacrvrrat
                        I know many people who have taken the vaccine with zero side effects, should I just listen to them since I know them personally?


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                        replaced "taken the vaccine" with 'had covid'... and you have the same scenario as tens of millions of others...

                        and therefore, what's the point of the vax?
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                        • #42
                          Deadon
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 9975

                          Originally posted by LBDamned
                          replaced "taken the vaccine" with 'had covid'... and you have the same scenario as tens of millions of others...

                          and therefore, what's the point of the vax?
                          The vaxxed can get covid the people that had covid have immunity. The long tern sides effects of the shots and many boosters are unknown. The short term effects are on the WHO site with thousands of adverse side effects but no one wants to talk about them.
                          Lions not sheep.

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                          • #43
                            LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            ^^^ that's all fine and dandy... but I don't even know why some of you guys keep arguing about the safety or even effectiveness of the vax.

                            I'd argue why is a vax even necessary.

                            The agenda pushers have you right where they want you... going in circles over the safety of the vax... so long as you take your eyes off the necessity of the vax, they're fine with it.
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                            • #44
                              sacrvrrat
                              Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 425

                              Florida has the lowest cases

                              Originally posted by LBDamned
                              ^^^ that's all fine and dandy... but I don't even know why some of you guys keep arguing about the safety or even effectiveness of the vax.

                              I'd argue why is a vax even necessary.

                              The agenda pushers have you right where they want you... going in circles over the safety of the vax... so long as you take your eyes off the necessity of the vax, they're fine with it.
                              Last edited by sacrvrrat; 10-28-2021, 4:19 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Deadon
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 9975

                                Originally posted by LBDamned
                                ^^^ that's all fine and dandy... but I don't even know why some of you guys keep arguing about the safety or even effectiveness of the vax.

                                I'd argue why is a vax even necessary.

                                The agenda pushers have you right where they want you... going in circles over the safety of the vax... so long as you take your eyes off the necessity of the vax, they're fine with it.
                                True, I thought I said this after the FDA meeting. But either way it's all screwed up.
                                Lions not sheep.

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