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  • harbormaster
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 5898

    720,000 right?

    1. Compared to what?
    2. At what cost?
    3. What hard evidence do you have?

    T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.
  • #2
    Old4eyes
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1751

    The 720,000 died have already been back filled by the southern border.
    Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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    • #3
      SPUTTER
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2009
      • 7504

      You're blaming China? The spike protein code in the vaccines that everyone is injecting themselves with comes from Chinese scientists, hahaha. Shouldn't they be hailed as heroes for providing us the antigen for the safe and effective injections?

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      • #4
        OlderThanDirt
        FUBAR
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jun 2009
        • 5811

        720,000 is just the tip of the iceberg. Birth and death rates are relatively unchanged as the world population speeds ahead to surpass 8 billion, most of which want to live in the US and get free stuff.
        We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
        Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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        • #5
          Scota4570
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 1719

          It is hard to say. Normally 2,800,000 people die every year in the US. I tried looking it up but can't figure out a fair comparison for total deaths on the official page.



          This page is unvetted.



          CDC DATA :

          Total U.S. DEATHS ( ALL CAUSES ) :


          2014: 2,626,418

          2015: 2,712,630 : Increase - 86,212 - 3.28%

          2016 : 2,744,248 : Increase - 31,618 - 1.16%

          2017 : 2,813,503 : Increase - 69,255 - 2.52%

          2018 : 2,839,206 : Increase - 25,703 - 1%

          2019: 2,855,000 : Increase - 15,794- 0.55%

          2020: 2,913,144 : Increase - 58,144 - 2%

          These numbers suggest that covid was not responsible for all of the increased deaths. The total number was up 58K. Covid supposedly killed a lot more than that. The only conclusion can be that they would have died that year anyway, regardless of covid. Shocker..........I've been arguing that since the beginning.

          Also note every year it has been increasing. Both 2015 and 2017 are greater than 2020. To me that indicates the covid is not a crisis. The number of deaths is inside the normal variation from year to year. That indicates to me that covid is not an emergency.

          Somebody please tell me why I am wrong. On the face of it stepping back and looking at the total picture seems enlightening.
          Last edited by Scota4570; 10-25-2021, 4:02 PM.

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          • #6
            Libertarian777
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 576

            Originally posted by Scota4570
            It is hard to say. Normally 2,800,000 people die every year in the US. I tried looking it up but can't figure out a fair comparison for total deaths on the official page.



            This page is unvetted.



            CDC DATA :

            Total U.S. DEATHS ( ALL CAUSES ) :


            2014: 2,626,418

            2015: 2,712,630 : Increase - 86,212 - 3.28%

            2016 : 2,744,248 : Increase - 31,618 - 1.16%

            2017 : 2,813,503 : Increase - 69,255 - 2.52%

            2018 : 2,839,206 : Increase - 25,703 - 1%

            2019: 2,855,000 : Increase - 15,794- 0.55%

            2020: 2,913,144 : Increase - 58,144 - 2%

            These numbers suggest that covid was not responsible for all of the increased deaths. The total number was up 58K. Covid supposedly killed a lot more than that. The only conclusion can be that they would have died that year anyway, regardless of covid. Shocker..........I've been arguing that since the beginning.

            Also note every year it has been increasing. Both 2015 and 2017 are greater than 2020. To me that indicates the covid is not a crisis. The number of deaths is inside the normal variation from year to year. That indicates to me that covid is not an emergency.

            Somebody please tell me why I am wrong. On the face of it stepping back and looking at the total picture seems enlightening.
            CDC does have excess death estimate.
            Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.


            your data is also old. 2020 all-cause deaths were 3.3M not 2.8M


            be wary looking at CDC data for deaths that's within 60 days, it takes about 60 days on average for them to update their data, it can also take a year for data to be finalized. Ie. more recent weeks will always look favorable.

            Simple linear regression with a 95% CI shows 2020 deaths would have been predicted to be between 2.85M and 2.95M
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            Last edited by Libertarian777; 10-25-2021, 10:53 PM.

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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              "Fortunately" Biden's incompetence is getting back at China. Biden's supply chain disaster at the ports is almost certainly hurting Chinese manufacturers more than it is hurting us.

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              • #8
                Gundiver
                Banned
                • Sep 2016
                • 1030

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                • #9
                  SPUTTER
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 7504

                  Unfortunately, this is a US/China joint operation. All the banter we see on TV between the two is just for show.

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                  • #10
                    five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34804

                    Originally posted by Old4eyes
                    The 720,000 died have already been back filled by the southern border.

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                    Migrants were encountered 1.7 million times in the last 12 months, the highest number of illegal crossings recorded since at least 1960.

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