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  • CrazyCobraManTim
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 2070

    How does my Dr. win against army of doctors?

    Revised to be hopefully plain and clear.

    Anyone had to face a situation where their long-term personal physician signs various forms declaring effectively "my patient is exempted from the jab" for county or state entities.

    Only to have 1 or more of these entities question the doctor's decision?

    How can one doctor for entity #1 or #2 overrule or nullify the medical decision of another doctor?

    What recourse(s) if any or protocols are doctor's normally to follow so this doesn't devolve into something else??
    Last edited by CrazyCobraManTim; 10-24-2021, 7:02 AM. Reason: Cuz I was far too verbose the 1st time
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    Epaphroditus
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 4888

    Wut?
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    • #3
      Dan_Eastvale
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2013
      • 10095

      The same way a pharmacist can deny an Ivermectin prescription when it's for unauthorized use like COVID. Your county authorities have determined your exemption is invalid. The powers to be have all the cards in all things COVID. Your freedoms mean nothing.. As Biden stated.

      Until federal courts decide otherwise.

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      • #4
        stonefly-2
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4993

        Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
        The same way a pharmacist can deny an Ivermectin prescription when it's for unauthorized use like COVID. Your county authorities have determined your exemption is invalid. The powers to be have all the cards in all things COVID. Your freedoms mean nothing.. As Biden stated.

        Until federal courts decide otherwise.


        The federal courts that decided that the (real) President didn't have standing in the face of blatant voter fraud?
        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


        I was born under a wandrin star.

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        • #5
          Dan_Eastvale
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2013
          • 10095

          Originally posted by stonefly-2
          The federal courts that decided that the (real) President didn't have standing in the face of blatant voter fraud?
          Yep. The same banana spined swine.

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          • #6
            Epaphroditus
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4888

            If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Obama said so.

            Imagine a country where every petty bureaucrat has absolute dictatorial power over the population ... we are there.
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            • #7
              LBDamned
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 19040

              Welcome to 'The New Norm' peasant.
              "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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              • #8
                CrazyCobraManTim
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 2070

                Far from a peasant or serf.

                Wolverines perhaps.....

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                • #9
                  Wherryj
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 11085

                  Originally posted by CrazyCobraManTim
                  Revised to be hopefully plain and clear.

                  Anyone had to face a situation where their long-term personal physician signs various forms declaring effectively "my patient is exempted from the jab" for county or state entities.

                  Only to have 1 or more of these entities question the doctor's decision?

                  How can one doctor for entity #1 or #2 overrule or nullify the medical decision of another doctor?

                  What recourse(s) if any or protocols are doctor's normally to follow so this doesn't devolve into something else??
                  Of course they will. Not only will signing such things get your physician into trouble because the medical board threatens professional licensing for any mask or vaccine mandates, but the forces are aligned against that physician. No matter how well documented the exemption is, there WILL be someone else immediately willing to "refute" it.
                  "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                  -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                  "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                  I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                  • #10
                    CrazyCobraManTim
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2070

                    Thanks - and since I know you do this for a living - beyond incurring the Medical Board's enteral consternation - what would be the process in a Doctor vs Doctor scenario prior to Covid-19?

                    Clearly my doctor is willing to put his name on the form(s)...God bless him.

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                    • #11
                      HibikiR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 2417

                      Simply put, those doctors can't override your doctor's decision because it wasn't your doctor's decision to make in the first place. Decision making belongs to the patient, advising belongs to the doctor.

                      Simply mention the principle of patient autonomy for the competent adult and any physician should realize that they can't push any further without any form of government backing like a court order.

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                      • #12
                        CrazyCobraManTim
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2070

                        Originally posted by HibikiR
                        Simply put, those doctors can't override your doctor's decision because it wasn't your doctor's decision to make in the first place. Decision making belongs to the patient, advising belongs to the doctor.

                        Simply mention the principle of patient autonomy for the competent adult and any physician should realize that they can't push any further without any form of government backing like a court order.
                        I'm beginning to believe words like mandate, guidance, executive order, decree, blah, blah, blah seem to some people to have the weight of historic and decided law....

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                        • #13
                          stonefly-2
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 4993

                          Originally posted by CrazyCobraManTim
                          I'm beginning to believe words like mandate, guidance, executive order, decree, blah, blah, blah seem to some people to have the weight of historic and decided law....


                          What they have is a desperate necessity to double down,

                          this whole thing was the swamp keeping itself from getting drained.

                          Now they can't go back because it will become obvious so they go forward trying to figure a way to not have the castle stormed when people realize the extent of death and injury they are causing.

                          The strategy our team is taking is that the world economy is collapsing and Americans have free will in deciding whether or not to take on the poison load.

                          This sidesteps having to face the wrath of so many in denial.
                          ("the vaccinated")
                          What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                          Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                          https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                          I was born under a wandrin star.

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                          • #14
                            LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            Originally posted by CrazyCobraManTim
                            I'm beginning to believe words like mandate, guidance, executive order, decree, blah, blah, blah seem to some people to have the weight of historic and decided law....
                            My ears always perked up when I would hear that on the news...

                            It seemed so f-ing creepy to me - hearing 'get the shot', 'obey', 'allowed', 'permitted', etc... yes, all those words have been used...

                            I'm WAY too independent for that not to seem extremely odd to me... im not wired to ever get used to it - no matter how many times they say it... ive never gotten used to seeing humans muzzled either.

                            The entire thing was off from the very beginning... ive questioned it the whole way... the creepier it got, the more I was convinced - its about conditioning.

                            What I didn't expect - was the remarkable amount of compliance. I dont think they expected it either.
                            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                            • #15
                              Fastattack
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1653

                              How quickly "it's a private matter between me and my doctor" went out the window...
                              The collectivists who think that for the "greater good", they own our children, now also think they own our bodies, with the one exception being abortion.

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