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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13532

    Fatties catch the covid and die

    CDC is claiming that it's the lower vax rate causing higher death rates.

    To me it's Obesity:
    The CDC announced this week that the national coronavirus death toll topped 675,000, surpassing the death toll of the Spanish Flu epidemic.


    Regarding vaccinations, the current data on hand also shows that states with the lowest vaccination rates had a four-times higher death rate than states with higher vaccination rates. Last week, the top 10 states with the highest death rates were: Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Collectively, the states recorded 73.9 deaths per 100,000 residents. From CNN:

    The average rate of Covid-19 deaths in the 10 least vaccinated states was more than four times higher over the past week than the rate in the 10 most vaccinated states, according to a CNN analysis.

    In the least vaccinated states, roughly eight people out of every 100,000 residents died of Covid-19 over the past week, compared with only about two out of every 100,000 people in the 10 most vaccinated states.

    CNN used data from Johns Hopkins University and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for the analysis.
    Exhibit A


    Exhibit B



    Back in the good old days doctors would say "You need to lose 20 pounds"
  • #2
    Remus
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 428

    Im trying to understand your argument as it isn't clear. The article you cite indicates states with lower vaccination rates have four times the death rate to covid than the highest vaccinated states. From this you state its the fatties that are dying. Are you implying then that the states with higher vaccination rates have fewer "fatties" than states with lower vaccination rates? That those in higher vaccinated areas are more health conscious than in other areas. Regardless, last I checked the clinically obesity rate in this country was somewhere around 40 per cent of the adult population. Like it or not, those are still your fellow Americans, many of whom I'd imagine are quite nice people.

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    • #3
      DentonandSasquatchShow
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2018
      • 1343

      Being prone with fluids collecting isn't good and its REALLY bad for fat people.
      I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

      The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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      • #4
        Term
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 966

        Vitamin D and Its Potential Benefit for the COVID-19 Pandemic

        Vitamin D is known not only for its importance for bone health but also for its biologic activities on many other organ systems. This is due to the presence of the vitamin D receptor in various types of cells and tissues, including the skin, skeletal muscle, adipose tissue, endocrine pancreas, immun …



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        Vitamin D in obesity

        Lower vitamin D in obese people is a consistent finding across age, ethnicity, and geography. This may not always reflect a clinical problem. Obese people need higher loading doses of vitamin D to achieve the same serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D as normal weight.


        Relationship between abdominal obesity (based on waist circumference) and serum vitamin D levels




        Is this why heavy people have a worse outcome?
        Last edited by Term; 09-24-2021, 5:33 AM.
        Originally posted by tonelar
        Asking a gun shop employeel for legal advice is like going over investment strategies with your crack ho.

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        • #5
          tsmithson
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2016
          • 1580

          China found a way to just kill Americans.

          Clever. Focus on fat.

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          • #6
            boogak
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2006
            • 1618

            Damn I need to lose weight

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            • #7
              Wherryj
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2010
              • 11085

              Originally posted by sd_shooter
              CDC is claiming that it's the lower vax rate causing higher death rates.

              To me it's Obesity:
              The CDC announced this week that the national coronavirus death toll topped 675,000, surpassing the death toll of the Spanish Flu epidemic.




              Exhibit A


              Exhibit B



              Back in the good old days doctors would say "You need to lose 20 pounds"
              For these people it's, "You need to lose 20 pounds so that your ankles won't burst when you try to stand up to lose the other 300 excess pounds you put on."
              "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
              -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
              "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
              I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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              • #8
                Wherryj
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2010
                • 11085

                Originally posted by tsmithson
                China found a way to just kill Americans.

                Clever. Focus on fat.
                There are many claiming this as well as the fact that it's designed to kill China's own elderly population. It's interesting timing, seeing how they just recently ended their "one child" push after realizing that it was building a massive "retirement bomb". China is facing an economic crisis as millions of elderly are retiring/about to retire and there aren't enough young workers to support them and the rest of the demands of society.

                I guess that having at most one child to care for the two retiring parents isn't such a great economic platform?
                "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                • #9
                  lone shooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 2469

                  Originally posted by sd_shooter
                  CDC is claiming that it's the lower vax rate causing higher death rates.

                  To me it's Obesity:
                  The CDC announced this week that the national coronavirus death toll topped 675,000, surpassing the death toll of the Spanish Flu epidemic.




                  Exhibit A


                  Exhibit B



                  Back in the good old days doctors would say "You need to lose 20 pounds"
                  This guy managed to escape its grip. https://www.thedowneypatriot.com/art...to-get-healthy
                  The koolaid only works if EVERYONE drinks it - Jim Jones

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                  • #10
                    M14 Junkie
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 733

                    Again....anyone who can see, knows that obesity has always been a primary health condition for susceptibility to both catching it and dying from it.

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                    • #11
                      sd_shooter
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 13532

                      Originally posted by M14 Junkie
                      Again....anyone who can see, knows that obesity has always been a primary health condition for susceptibility to both catching it and dying from it.
                      Yeah, neither of those two 'victims' can even buy a T-shirt in their size.

                      Things are too good in this country, as in too much free time and too much good food. There's a reason why Sweden/Norway/Denmark have now lifted their covid restrictions - people are generally healthy and don't eat huge meals.

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                      • #12
                        44.shooter.lb
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 82

                        Originally posted by sd_shooter
                        CDC is claiming that it's the lower vax rate causing higher death rates.

                        To me it's Obesity:
                        The CDC announced this week that the national coronavirus death toll topped 675,000, surpassing the death toll of the Spanish Flu epidemic.

                        Wouldn't it be nice if we could just solve all the problems in the world by narrowing it down to one thing?

                        Obesity plays a part for SOME people - I am considered obese by my doctor, I also have type 2 diabetes, and I just had COVID and got over it without any medical intervention. I took vitamins and OTC cold medicine. That was it. I was done from start of symptoms to no symptoms in 14 days.

                        One of the things I learned after going through the experience of having COVID is nobody knows a damn thing. Your doctor doesn't know anything, the "scientists" don't know anything, and THAT is probably the most prevalent cause of people dying.

                        Now, I have a lot of other theories around COVID after experiencing it. I think there is a COVID, and I think there are other things too, and I am pretty sure the "gold standard" test they use is crap. One good reason for that is I was told not to test for at least 30 days AFTER not showing any symptoms, because I will most likely test positive for that long. If the test used to determine you have something still shows you have it 30 days after your symptoms have gone - that tells me the test is too sensitive, and couldn't that also result in "other" illnesses showing up as COVID positive?

                        Why is it that some people get "COVID" and die within a week, and I got "COVID" (because the PCR test said I had it) and my symptoms were very mild?

                        I also think there was a financial incentive for hospitals to treat "COVID" patients in a hospital setting. Some hospitals have a lot of money and don't need to maximize the financial benefit of admitting everyone to the hospital, some small hospitals however might find a benefit to that.

                        Its also amazing how Monoclonal Antibody treatment ISN'T being pushed. My wife, who got sick from me - took the treatment and like magic her symptoms were gone within 4 days. Her sick time was cut in HALF from my sick time.

                        Until you experience it for yourself its hard to understand just how retarded the doctors and health care companies are. I used to somewhat respect my doctor, we disagreed on many things before getting COVID, but after having it I don't trust her, and I will only see her for superficial things like getting prescriptions for antibiotics.

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                        • #13
                          HibikiR
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 2417

                          Most reports say most treatments (HCQ, monoclonals, ventilators, etc.) don't work once the patient crosses some threshold of severe illness.

                          From a quick Google search, ivermectin seems to be one of the few things (only?) that works on severe illness.

                          Edit:


                          Summary: still needs to be tested for effectiveness before any decision for or against can be made.
                          Last edited by HibikiR; 09-25-2021, 3:20 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Fizz
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1473

                            Being unhealthy increases your risk factors for all diseases. Nothing revelatory about that.

                            The states listed are some of the most obese in the nation for sure, and some of the lowest vaccination rates. However, availability of medical care, quality therein, willingness to seek help before severe symptoms, etc. are other potential confounders in those states.

                            If people want to be obese, and not get the jab, is fine with me though.

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                            • #15
                              NoHeavyHitter
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2876

                              Originally posted by DentonandSasquatchShow
                              Being prone with fluids collecting isn't good and its REALLY bad for fat people.
                              I'd have thought being supine would be worse..

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