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  • turbolxstang
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 675

    How does the "science" explain...

    That the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated? Serious question...
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    Epaphroditus
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 4888

    Because we need to cull the to prevent the Marek's disease effect.
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    • #3
      Scota4570
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 1720

      DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases.

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        gcvt
        Orlando, Florida
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 13712

        You’re not allowed to ask questions! We must protect the protected by forcing the unprotected to take a protection that didn’t protect the protected
        Last edited by gcvt; 09-22-2021, 8:10 PM.
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I want to be Princess Anastasia today because I feel pretty
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        Kes is really just an errand boy
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I am NOT...anything other than a schmuck...

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          deerdeerdeer
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 2696

          I got a good one for you. Trust me, its a new one to my knowledge..

          True story --->

          My friend got accomodated for unpaid leave for not being vaxxed for his workplace, a public building. He is not allowed to work there , also losing his pension (just 2 more year's, accomodations eh?) but he can walk in and out of this pubilc building as a patron anytime he wants, how is that for science?

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            Sgt. J Beezy
            Banned
            • Mar 2011
            • 1257

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              deerdeerdeer
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 2696

              Originally posted by Sgt. J Beezy
              Can anyone show me longitudinal studies with control groups for safety and effectiveness over a period of 5 years? 3 years? 2 years?

              Hell, 1 year???

              No???

              Then, where is the “science” they want me to “trust”?


              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
              Like my great liberal friend who voted for Trump said, "Come on man, make it easy for yourself so you can go to work, travel, etc. it so convenient, you can do it right now!"
              *Yep he voted for Trump, lectured me on how great he is, and he goes and does all this ^

              He got his 3rd booster shot by proclaiming some BS for his "safety" but we all know who lives in "fear" and wears floral panties....
              Last edited by deerdeerdeer; 09-22-2021, 7:52 PM.

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                DesertDave100
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 547

                I hate allergy season. I took my Claritin, but nobody else did, so mine doesn't work.

                Or, this is the first time I've heard of people blaming the ineffectiveness of the drug they took, on the people who didn't take it.

                Those are the absurd examples. There ain't no science answer to the question.
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                This is OT where we never let the facts get in the way of a salacious accusation. Especially when it includes the butt.

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                  turbolxstang
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 675

                  Someone has to be able to explain it, maybe it's a herd immunity thing or something, let me Google it

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                  • #10
                    LBDamned
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 19040

                    Originally posted by turbolxstang
                    That the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated? Serious question...
                    It goes against government's plan.

                    That's dangerous.

                    It's science.

                    Don't question it.
                    "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                    • #11
                      71MUSTY
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 7029

                      Originally posted by DesertDave100
                      I hate allergy season. I took my Claritin, but nobody else did, so mine doesn't work.

                      Or, this is the first time I've heard of people blaming the ineffectiveness of the drug they took, on the people who didn't take it.

                      Those are the absurd examples. There ain't no science answer to the question.
                      Be careful, Claritin is not recommended for males after puberty.
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                      Americans vs. Democrats
                      We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                      We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


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                      • #12
                        DentonandSasquatchShow
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 1343

                        They certainly have blinded a lot of people with the "science".

                        I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.

                        The last time I had faith in the News was when it was with Huey Lewis.

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                          TrappedinCalifornia
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 9191

                          Originally posted by turbolxstang
                          That the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated? Serious question...
                          From 2017 (i.e., pre-COVID) posted by the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia... Feature Article: If Vaccines Work, Why Do Unvaccinated People Pose a Risk?

                          That appears to be exactly the 'logic' being pushed now. From July 2021...

                          Short version... It's not so much the 'science' which is saying that the unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated as the 'science' is actually very limited vis a vis the data. It is more an exercise in logic which is saying it. The problem is that GIGO applies; i.e., a 'garbage' premise leads to a 'garbage' conclusion.

                          The bet was placed on vaccines being the solution and the politically acceptable short cut to 'herd immunity.' The problem was that the so-called 'vaccines' were never designed to impart or induce immunity. They were intended to accomplish exactly what was being expressed (at that time) as the desire; i.e., reduction of 'stress on the system' via a reduction in hospitalizations and mortality. As awareness grew that the vaccines were more treatments than vaccines, they redefined 'vaccine' so as to remove the 'immunity' portion and better 'fit' the new narrative. Yet, they never adjusted their premise related to 'herd immunity' being the 'solution' sought.

                          If the 'unvaccinated as a threat to the vaccinated' is premised upon 'herd immunity,' then such must be achievable, yet it is something that they have never established as possible with this, specific virus. In fact, back in March, Nature published a piece... Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible...

                          That's the 'science.' The narrative and the 'logic' spawning it falls apart based on several things. First, the fact that they are ignoring natural immunity/resistance doesn't help in that they are basing 'herd immunity,' virtually solely, upon vaccination; meaning that vaccination becomes the inviolable, sole criterion, for 'success.'

                          Second, they are, as yet, still studying the transmission rates among the vaccinated. In other words, they don't know who is actually responsible for transmission. Vaccines not being 100% effective is different in scope and intent than a so-called 'vaccine' which was never intended to prevent infection/transmission. Thus, the "greater the number of unvaccinated people in a community, the more opportunity germs have to spread" is also an inapplicable indictment of the unvaccinated at the moment in that they don't know who is actually responsible for the transmission, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated or both.

                          Ultimately, if your premise rests in the solution being 'herd immunity,' then you need to establish that 'herd immunity' is achievable and that's something they continue to assume, but have yet to establish as possible in the real world. In fact, there is a growing chorus that the disease caused by the virus is more likely to become endemic. Thus, the 'science' isn't available; therefore, 'science' isn't what 'explains' the contention. Well, at least in this case. Why?

                          If the 'logic' underlying the contention is based on what appears to be a questionable premise in the case of COVID, then 'science' and 'logic' aren't where you need to be looking in relation to 'answer' for why the contention is being pushed.

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                            axhoaxho
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2009
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                              deerdeerdeer
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2696

                              Originally posted by axhoaxho
                              damn, and i just had an idea to swing trade/day trade vaccine stocks, i get three lessons in one, the value of money, money is greed , and its hypocritical..

                              most vaccine stocks down 12-22%, the only vaccine thats printin is moderna and dvax

                              everybody should go fractional shares so you got the vaccine, eh?

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