Biden says troops should be dishonorably discharged if they fail to get Covid vaccine

[DaveInOroValley]

The moron in office needs a thorough education on our men and women in the military and what the various discharges mean to them long term.

[Olav]

It's also important to note that the award of a Dishonorable Discharge can only be done upon conviction by a General Courts Martial. That takes a lot of effort.

The Commander in Chief, nor his subordinates can administratively issue such a discharge.

Any Rule can be changed to suit the current political narrative.

[The Tiger]

I respect and honor those that serve. I was raised by someone who served until full retirement. Lots of military in my family still. I've travelled to DC and participated in Rolling Thunder.

I have to ask, why, anymore, would someone want to serve.

This Vax mandate is the latest example. There a plenty of examples of situations that give me concern as to why I would want my children to join the military.

EDIT: Question? If you smoke weed and test dirty is it still a medical discharge?

[happyvirus]

I respect and honor those that serve. I was raised by someone who served until full retirement. Lots of military in my family still. I've travelled to DC and participated in Rolling Thunder.

I have to ask, why, anymore, would someone want to serve.

This Vax mandate is the latest example. There a plenty of examples of situations that give me concern as to why I would want my children to join the military.

EDIT: Question? If you smoke weed and test dirty is it still a medical discharge?

[The Tiger]

Often I saw “Other than honorable” or “general discharge” for pissing hot.

Medical discharge is when something happens to you while in service, but the military determines it’s not serious enough and don’t give you a medical retirement. You also get a severance check when you get medical discharge

Thanks. I would say that's a solution, not a great one, but a solution.

My lifelong friend was in the Navy during the Anthrax vax. He's strongly in the Never Again category and regrets complying.

He said in his last few years he lied about the flu shot and said they never really pushed back on that. They would say "our records say you didn't get the fly shot." He would say "the records are wrong, I got it" and they dropped the issue. He's happy that he's out

This last year he quit his very high paying job here in CA and moved to TN to get away from the craziness.

[RickD427]

Any Rule can be changed to suit the current political narrative.

That's true, but it's not easily done, especially in this case.

Military law has created a pretty firmly established "Due Process" requirement that the issuance of a Dishonorable Discharge requires a General Court Martial conviction.

The procedures are laid out in Title 10 of the U.S. Code and that could be changed by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress and signature of the President. With the current Congress, it would be a close call in the Senate.

But even if the statute were changed, stand by for the inevitable "Due Process" challenges in the court. That process would likely outlast the virus and the Biden Administration.

[ibanezfoo]

That brain dead commie terrorist in the white house needs to be discharged and locked up in Guantanamo. Other than Obama has any president hated America and the Constitution that much? The fact it was even considered tells you whos side he is on, and it is not the side of the US. He is one of those "all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC" and yet he remains uncuffed and not in a cell...

[ceotran]

He doesn't know a turd from a hershey's kisses

[Wherryj]

It's also important to note that the award of a Dishonorable Discharge can only be done upon conviction by a General Courts Martial. That takes a lot of effort.

The Commander in Chief, nor his subordinates can administratively issue such a discharge.

That might be true now, but if the administration gets changes instituted that make it easier for the Courts Martial to make that determination while also threatening them if they don't "play ball", you might see this become essentially a rubber stamp procedure.

Just a few years ago, the state Medical Boards wouldn't have had a blanket policy that an off label use of a medication would immediately result in action against a provider's license and such a thing would have required proof of a pattern of abuse and mal intent. Now, they are rubber stamping the sanctioning of any provider who uses HCQ or ivermectin as well as any provider who writes an exemption for masks for vaccination.

[stonefly-2]

What do you think those .Mil declining the toxic jab think should be his employment transition?

[ACfixer]

Buck Fiden.

Get one yet?

[Notpc]

Good, maybe this will help them decide which side they will fight on when, you know, the "thing" kicks off................

THE "THING"

[WartHog]

Nice wall of text, OP...

[norcalAF]

The moron in office needs a thorough education on our men and women in the military and what the various discharges mean to them long term.

The man couldn't be bothered to pay his undivided attention to the transfer of the remains of the service members his actions killed, you think he gives two craps about the rest of us?

[M14 Junkie]

The man couldn't be bothered to pay his undivided attention to the transfer of the remains of the service members his actions killed, you think he gives two craps about the rest of us?

A dishonorable discharge means the equivalent of walking thru the rest of your life with a felony conviction on your head. It's that bad.