My Vaxxed Mom Died of COVID...And It's You Anti-Vaxxers Fault

[M1A Rifleman]

One of the most difficult things you can ever do is come to terms with the fact you've based your world view around a lie, and made poor decisions because of it. Most people when presented with contradictory evidence would further promote the lie, to try to convince even more people of it, perpetuating the same mistakes in others.

It takes an extremely strong person to take in contradictory information than what you know and believe, process it, and entertain the idea you were wrong and made bad decisions because you were wrong. This is very difficult to do for most people.

Well said, and she will live with anger over her false belief the rest of her life.

[jorgi23]

The vaccine made her death a bit softer? easier? faster? better? funner?

"The vaccine worked"
Fouci

[Sig556swat]

The vaccine made her death a bit softer? easier? faster? better? funner?

"The vaccine worked"
Fouci

Exactly. She totally would of been way deader if she wasnt vaxxed

[LBDamned]

Finger pointing is a thing these days.

[stonefly-2]

One of the most difficult things you can ever do is come to terms with the fact you've based your world view around a lie, and made poor decisions because of it. Most people when presented with contradictory evidence would further promote the lie, to try to convince even more people of it, perpetuating the same mistakes in others.

It takes an extremely strong person to take in contradictory information than what you know and believe, process it, and entertain the idea you were wrong and made bad decisions because you were wrong. This is very difficult to do for most people.

And to do anything to help means a good number of people think I'm a complete Ahole.....I don't just talk online.

[stix213]

And to do anything to help means a good number of people think I'm a complete Ahole.....I don't just talk online.

Yep, instead of considering new contradictory information, the normal response is to attack the messenger unless you can immediately poke holes in the new information. Hence you're an Ahole.

Everyone does this response to some extent. I do it, you do it, etc. I think it is just important to recognize this is a normal response so you may be doing it at any time, and to sometimes try to consider what they are saying even if you disagree, before outright rejecting it.

[DentonandSasquatchShow]

Wasn't the unvaxxed that killed her it was the ventilator. Once you get on that and don't get up and move around you are as good as done. Fluids start to pool, you get pneumonia and TA-DA you're dead.

[sigfan91]

C'mon man!

That was 4 days, 5 days ago.

[Dr Rockso]

The truth is, it is a flat out lie that Americans who can take the vaccine but have chosen not to are the ones perpetuating the virus.

The CDC doesn't actually publish the data on how much the vaxed population overlaps with the already caught covid population, but the CDC uses a 4 to 1 ratio of reported covid cases to estimate the real total number of cases. That makes it roughly 130 million Americans caught covid and would have natural immunity, or 39% of the population. If you just overlap the vaxed numbers with the caught covid numbers, you are left with roughly 50 million Americans who have neither caught covid nor received the vax, or just 15% of the population. 85% of the population either received the vax, or has natural immunity.

Now the largest group of Americans who are unvaccinated is obviously going to be the 48 million Americans who are under 12 years old, so don't even qualify for the vax. If we just overlay the 39% caught covid number, we are left with 29 million children who haven't caught covid and can't get vaccinated, out of the 50 million of all ages. That leaves us with only 21 million Americans age 12 or older who aren't vaccinated, and do not have natural immunity, or 6% of the total US population.

In earlier waves of covid infections we had little to no vax based immunity, and much lower levels of natural immunity, so even assuming the vax worked at 95% we had the majority of the population pool capable of spreading the virus.

On the contrary, with this current wave we see similar numbers to previous waves, but only 15% of the population with no immunity (assuming the vax works as advertised). It does not seem plausible we could get a similar wave to last time driven almost entirely by just 15% of the population.

It makes no sense to blame the 9% of the population which has no immunity, and can't even take the vax yet due to age, so the family here must be blaming the 6%. It is simply not possible for this 6% of the population to be entirely responsible for the spread of the virus. Impossible.

Either natural immunity isn't a thing, but data out of Israel makes it clear natural immunity is far superior to the vaccines and much longer lasting, or the primary spreaders of the virus are the vaccinated themselves. The vaccinated are spreading the virus and scapegoating the unvaccinated.

You're assigning everyone who has previously had COVID to the unvaccinated group which seems pretty unrealistic.

If you assume that the vaccinated and unvaccinated are equally as likely to have previously had COVID, you'd expect nearly 30% of the population to be unvaccinated without prior infection.

[DevilDawgJJ]

I don't want your thoughts and prayers. I want more vaccinations gun control!

[stix213]

You're assigning everyone who has previously had COVID to the unvaccinated group which seems pretty unrealistic.

No, with 63.5% of the population having received at least one dose, if I assigned all covid previously infected to the unvaccinated group (39%), those 2 numbers add up to more than 100% of the population already. So I was overlapping the 2 groups to come to around 85% of the population having previous infection immunity, the vax, or both.

How much the 2 groups overlap is unclear because many people who caught the virus might not know, and people who believe they have caught the virus may believe they don't need the vaccine even if they think the vaccine works.

The CDC knows the answer though since they have the names of everyone who has ever tested positive and the names of everyone who is vaccinated, and it would just be a simple cross reference of the 2 databases to get the answer and then applying there 4 to 1 multiplier to the results. Why they keep important information like this hidden from the public is concerning.

[tsmithson]

I heard covid19 deaths in India dropped to almost ZERO now that they are using Ivermectin.

Who is the killer?

[stix213]

I heard covid19 deaths in India dropped to almost ZERO now that they are using Ivermectin.

Who is the killer?

They just letting their horses die?

[XDJYo]

Finger pointing is a thing these days.

[tsmithson]

They just letting their horses die?