Friend got the vaccine, now feels super sick...

[bugsy714]

Because the pseudo-vaccines are in fact different, and a person can be allergic to one and not the other due to the PEG in the mRNA vaccines, and polysorbate in the J&J/Janssen vaccines.

Not to mention that the J&J/Janssen is not an mRNA vaccine, so it's even more interesting if it was this or the Pfizer/Moderna, or even AstraZeneca that caused it.

People have also had similar adverse reactions to certain pseudo-vaccines regardless of the above, and differences among the three, but sharing those unique side effects similar by whichever pseudo-vaccine they received.

Then again, it could have been a bad/spoiled dose and it's septic poisoning. There have been recalls of the pseudo-vaccines due to contanimants and/or spoilage.

So asking which pseudo-vaccine it is would be important.

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[stonefly-2]

Because the pseudo-vaccines are in fact different,

I commented on the way they are alike, do you rebut that?


and a person can be allergic to one and not the other due to the PEG in the mRNA vaccines, and polysorbate in the J&J/Janssen vaccines.

Great, a chance of sudden death, adverse reaction to exposure down the road by way of ADE and now allergies.

Not to mention that the J&J/Janssen is not an mRNA vaccine,

So you thought I made some mention of the delivery method?

so it's even more interesting if it was this or the Pfizer/Moderna, or even AstraZeneca that caused it.

Caused what?

People have also had similar adverse reactions to certain pseudo-vaccines regardless of the above,

100's of thousands of deaths in America alone by my estimation..... yes I would say so.

and differences among the three, but sharing those unique side effects similar by whichever pseudo-vaccine they received.

Sharing it with people that have the exact same allergy dynamic or to know to ask their doctor about what allergies they have before getting in line at the Walmart?

Then again, it could have been a bad/spoiled dose and it's septic poisoning. There have been recalls of the pseudo-vaccines due to contanimants and/or spoilage.

What is the "it" you refer to?

So asking which pseudo-vaccine it is would be important.

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It's not "important" it's bargaining,
there is no safe or effective way to go with toxic spike proteins.

Once this was all a mystery but now we know quite a number of safe and effective ways to prevent and cure Covid.

[stonefly-2]

Um...you're looking for a safe Covid vaccine. (and LOL)

[ACfixer]

I was thinking that too.

[deerdeerdeer]

I spoke to Nathan for 6 hours, and he is going for a CV-19 test, and feels a hundred times better with all the information you guys provided. I sent him this link, he is thankful, means a lot. I don't know why you guys are fighting over vaccines or not vaccines, you guys cap on us young ones for being immature, and teach us to lead by example. If this is the maturity you guys speak of, I don't want it . Y'all be treating each other with the worst respect, especially on a forum we suppose to work together on for the greater good yet you guys wanna play divide games on here too, damn. Ya'll suppose to believe in democracy yet don't respect each other opinions.. I ain't even gonna say more then I'm gonna get attacked, I ain't got time for that, did you know there is a pandemic outside, we ain't got time for that..

[XDJYo]

I spoke to Nathan for 6 hours, and he is going for a CV-19 test, and feels a hundred times better with all the information you guys provided. I sent him this link, he is thankful, means a lot. I don't know why you guys are fighting over vaccines or not vaccines, you guys cap on us young ones for being immature, and teach us to lead by example. If this is the maturity you guys speak of, I don't want it . Y'all be treating each other with the worst respect, especially on a forum we suppose to work together on for the greater good yet you guys wanna play divide games on here too, damn. Ya'll suppose to believe in democracy yet don't respect each other opinions.. I ain't even gonna say more then I'm gonna get attacked, I ain't got time for that, did you know there is a pandemic outside, we ain't got time for that..

Glad your buddy is better.


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[Den60]

And you know that because you have a time machine???

Probably not, but neither did the companies that developed the vaccines.

[deerdeerdeer]

Probably not, but neither did the companies that developed the vaccines.

I got a time machine, made it in the bathroom with a bathtub, and a vacuum sealed colt .25 ACP, LOL ( My first post was how to protect yourself during the toilet/shower). I got mega-trolled, I talked about condensation and rust seriously, vacuum sealed bag was a suggestion or a polymer gun, LOL..

[Dan_Eastvale]

Flu shots are developed rapidly for each new mutated Flu virus each season.
Oftentimes, the Flu shot will actually GIVE the recipient Flu symptoms.

[2shotjoe]

I spoke to Nathan for 6 hours, and he is going for a CV-19 test, and feels a hundred times better with all the information you guys provided. I sent him this link, he is thankful, means a lot. I don't know why you guys are fighting over vaccines or not vaccines, you guys cap on us young ones for being immature, and teach us to lead by example. If this is the maturity you guys speak of, I don't want it . Y'all be treating each other with the worst respect, especially on a forum we suppose to work together on for the greater good yet you guys wanna play divide games on here too, damn. Ya'll suppose to believe in democracy yet don't respect each other opinions.. I ain't even gonna say more then I'm gonna get attacked, I ain't got time for that, did you know there is a pandemic outside, we ain't got time for that..

We're a republic, not a democracy.

[The Gleam]

It's not "important" it's bargaining,
there is no safe or effective way to go with toxic spike proteins.

Once this was all a mystery but now we know quite a number of safe and effective ways to prevent and cure Covid.

Your opinion or avoidance of these pseudo-vaccines as a whole, like mine, which is the same as yours, means nothing in this situation - whereby the scenario is discussing someone who ALREADY got the pseudo-vaccine and is experiencing serious side effects.

Thusly, we are trying to help the guy, regardless of his choice to get the pseudo-vaccine or why, and knowing which pseudo-vaccine he got could help in relaying commonalities seen with adverse side effects that others experienced with that same pseudo-vaccine. We can allieve his current concerns and possibly advise him how to address those side-effects.

It's not about your commentary or predictions about these pseudo-vaccines - it's just about him, and helping him out, and maybe learning a thing or two to help others in the future if similarly relatable issues are seen in others that also get the same pseudo-vaccine he got.

There are plenty of other threads here where we can espouse our thoughts and comment on the actual science of these pseudo-vaccines; but no need for that here.

So in regard of the above, it still remains important to know which pseudo-vaccine he was administered - in order to address his adverse reaction objectively and scientifically.

[Tango_Down]

And you know that because you have a time machine???

Just because you got the shot and now wish you wouldn't have and want the rest of us to join you in the misery that has yet to come doesn't mean you can talk us into it.

[M14 Junkie]

Just because you got the shot and now wish you wouldn't have and want the rest of us to join you in the misery that has yet to come doesn't mean you can talk us into it.

A few of those types around here.

[stonefly-2]

Your opinion or avoidance of these pseudo-vaccines as a whole, like mine, which is the same as yours, means nothing in this situation - whereby the scenario is discussing someone who ALREADY got the pseudo-vaccine and is experiencing serious side effects.


No, the post I responded to had already segued from the topic you point out to the mythical comparative safety of the various "vaccines".

Thusly, we are trying to help the guy,


Did someone offer a longer list of reputed antidotes to the vaccine here than I did?

regardless of his choice to get the pseudo-vaccine or why, and knowing which pseudo-vaccine he got could help in relaying commonalities seen with adverse side effects that others experienced with that same pseudo-vaccine. We can allieve his current concerns and possibly advise him how to address those side-effects.

It's not about your commentary or predictions about these pseudo-vaccines - it's just about him, and helping him out, and maybe learning a thing or two to help others in the future if similarly relatable issues are seen in others that also get the same pseudo-vaccine he got.

There's the thing,
it's "bargaining" to try to attribute a bad reaction to some subtle nuance of variety, personal health / allergy or even that Covid may have been picked up in the clinic where he got the jab.

He got the jab and got messed up from it,
the OP quotes his friend as being under that impression himself.


There are plenty of other threads here where we can espouse our thoughts and comment on the actual science of these pseudo-vaccines; but no need for that here.

So in regard of the above, it still remains important to know which pseudo-vaccine he was administered - in order to address his adverse reaction objectively and scientifically.

Will take what you say under consideration particularly since your having consideration for others is at the heart of it but once a thread has veered into the weeds it's not my job to pull it out.

The positions of considered reflection and even, calm discussion in the face of a bioweapon were already taken when I got here.

Tough love and shaking those that still believe in "the science" by the lapels is what was left.

"It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled".

M. Twain

[deerdeerdeer]

We're a republic, not a democracy.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

I used it in a context for voting for party, might be wrong though, my English not so great , my college papers sucked..