Kicked Out of Restaurant Because of Vaccine Card

[FourT6and2]

EDIT: Shake Shack

Last week a buddy and I grabbed a burger here in SF. After ordering, we waited inside at a table for about 10 minutes. Masks off. No problems. Order number called and went to counter (with masks). My cashier handed me my food, no questions asked. Other cashier serving my buddy asked to see his vaccine card, which he provided. She had a very confrontational attitude and didn't like the looks of his vaccine card, which was straight from CVS. She said the paper felt too flimsy and it was printed slightly askew (which happens sometimes). So she had the manager come over to kick us both out.

We went back later to speak with the manager and get some clarification. He said he didn't like the looks of his vaccine card and accused my friend of either forging it or that it was a photocopy and they don't accept photocopies.

BUT... they WILL accept a photo on your phone of the card. So I asked him how a photo on your phone is any different from a photocopy printed out? He shrugged. So I asked him... ok if we go outside and take a photo of this very same card that you won't accept, you WILL accept that?

He said yes.

Mind = blown. How does that make any sense?

Anyway, my friend's card is real. The cashier serving him had a weird attitude and was instantly aggressive and confrontational even BEFORE he showed her his card.

My point in all of this is how is a burger flipper in any way qualified to gauge the authenticity of a vaccine card? How is anybody working retail anywhere, qualified? How is anybody other than someone who actually administers vaccines and/or manages them in some capacity even remotely qualified? And how businesses are applying their policies is simply inconsistent. It's such BS.

[BrokerB]

You are part of the problem for giving them service. Just say no

[Dan_Eastvale]

How long before software is implemented in every business at government expense which validates vax status as businesses do for credit card or debit card validity?
That will eliminate this problem
Seems Frisco implemented their draconian law without any direction.

[Hotboy]

Other cashier serving my buddy asked to see his vaccine card

I would have told them to pound sand. Being vaxxed is no requirement for ordering food, and if you paid for it upfront, then it's fraud to withhold the food from you.

[Fear58]

San Francisco, you say?

[user120312]

Sorry for your experience OP and I'm continually gobsmacked as a longtime business owner at how businesses apparently, after months, now getting into years, of economic strife, can afford to brutalize customers and throw away hard won business reputations. It's like everything is backwards now. Opposite universe. I need to get back to the universe of the sane. Any ideas how to get there?

[BamBam-31]

Name of restaurant?

Go in again next week, with camera on.

[Rob454]

Last week a buddy and I grabbed a burger here in SF. After ordering, we waited inside at a table for about 10 minutes. Masks off. No problems. Order number called and went to counter (with masks). My cashier handed me my food, no questions asked. Other cashier serving my buddy asked to see his vaccine card, which he provided. She had a very confrontational attitude and didn't like the looks of his vaccine card, which was straight from CVS. She said the paper felt too flimsy and it was printed slightly askew (which happens sometimes). So she had the manager come over to kick us both out.

We went back later to speak with the manager and get some clarification. He said he didn't like the looks of his vaccine card and accused my friend of either forging it or that it was a photocopy and they don't accept photocopies.

BUT... they WILL accept a photo on your phone of the card. So I asked him how a photo on your phone is any different from a photocopy printed out? He shrugged. So I asked him... ok if we go outside and take a photo of this very same card that you won't accept, you WILL accept that?

He said yes.

Mind = blown. How does that make any sense?

Anyway, my friend's card is real. The cashier serving him had a weird attitude and was instantly aggressive and confrontational even BEFORE he showed her his card.

My point in all of this is how is a burger flipper in any way qualified to gauge the authenticity of a vaccine card? How is anybody working retail anywhere, qualified? How is anybody other than someone who actually administers vaccines and/or manages them in some capacity even remotely qualified? And how businesses are applying their policies is simply inconsistent. It's such BS.

Don’t shop at any place of business that requires you to be vaccinated to receive service. I don’t personally care of you’re vaccinated or not. To me it’s a personal choice not a political one. For example my wife is vaccinated I’m not.

In your case I would of simply gotten up, left without paying and never steed foot in that restaurant again. If they can pick and choose who they service I can pick and choose who services me.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Isn't it a SF requirement?

[stonefly-2]

How long before software is implemented in every business at government expense which validates vax status as businesses do for credit card or debit card validity?
That will eliminate this problem
Seems Frisco implemented their draconian law without any direction.

Meanwhile is a phone image of a fake vax card still a punishable forgery since there is no reasonable expectation that it is a genuine original?

[skilletboy]

Last week a buddy and I grabbed a burger here in SF. After ordering, we waited inside at a table for about 10 minutes. Masks off. No problems. Order number called and went to counter (with masks). My cashier handed me my food, no questions asked. Other cashier serving my buddy asked to see his vaccine card, which he provided. She had a very confrontational attitude and didn't like the looks of his vaccine card, which was straight from CVS. She said the paper felt too flimsy and it was printed slightly askew (which happens sometimes). So she had the manager come over to kick us both out.

We went back later to speak with the manager and get some clarification. He said he didn't like the looks of his vaccine card and accused my friend of either forging it or that it was a photocopy and they don't accept photocopies.

BUT... they WILL accept a photo on your phone of the card. So I asked him how a photo on your phone is any different from a photocopy printed out? He shrugged. So I asked him... ok if we go outside and take a photo of this very same card that you won't accept, you WILL accept that?

He said yes.

Mind = blown. How does that make any sense?

Anyway, my friend's card is real. The cashier serving him had a weird attitude and was instantly aggressive and confrontational even BEFORE he showed her his card.

My point in all of this is how is a burger flipper in any way qualified to gauge the authenticity of a vaccine card? How is anybody working retail anywhere, qualified? How is anybody other than someone who actually administers vaccines and/or manages them in some capacity even remotely qualified? And how businesses are applying their policies is simply inconsistent. It's such BS.

5 words:

You were in San Francisco.

[codypaint77]

I would not

I would never spend any money in San Francisco.

[skilletboy]

I went to a typical burger & beer joint the other day and got into it with the manager about not having a mask. If it wasn't the only eating option near the theater where we were about to go to a movie I absolutely would have gone elsewhere. But after some hemming and hawing, he seating me anyways.

[tvl]

San Francisco, you say?

[Tactical Fred]

Did you ask for you money back ?