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  • Hammertime
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3495

    December 15, 2019

    The revelation by Ian Lipkin, a professor at Columbia University honoured by China for work on the first Sars epidemic, undermines the official Beijing narrative on the origins.
  • #2
    DemocracyEnaction
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1270

    Remember the Video of the Lady in china spitting on elevator buttons?
    "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth; Socialism is the equal distribution of poverty ... Communism is socialism with a gun at your back." - Sir Winston Churchill

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    • #3
      Term
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 967

      My cousin had the same experience in Dec. 2019.
      At the time he thought is was just the worst flu he ever had.

      Later realized that it possibly was Covid.
      Last edited by Term; 09-04-2021, 7:48 PM.
      Originally posted by tonelar
      Asking a gun shop employeel for legal advice is like going over investment strategies with your crack ho.

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      • #4
        Scota4570
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 1720

        Dec '19 is when it came to Lake Tahoe via Chinese tourists. They were sick and on the slopes. I know a lift operator who witnessed it and also got it from them. The symptoms were of covid.

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        • #5
          sealocan
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2012
          • 9951

          People in the Chinese government knew what was going on yet allowed their citizens to travel overseas without warning them or warning other nations.
          But that's not the part I find a little strange...
          Does anyone remember early on all those videos of people in China falling down seeming like they were dead or going to be dead very soon???
          Falling down on the sidewalk? There or a few videos of a guys on the side of a highway? There were quite a few more where people were all over the front area of a hospital getting ready to die? Street cameras with video of people falling down in the street? etc. etc.etc.
          Yet MANY other images and videos that the Chinese government wants to hide only break through to the mass media very occasionally and even their badly filmed, grainy shots from miles away, like for example those Northwestern Chinese Muslim detention re-education camps, that supposedly show thousands and thousands of prisoners which the video showed But that only came out once and from one video and then disappeared.

          What I'm getting at is that China has a strong control on videos and media leaving their country. I don't think it's just my opinion that they have much more control than Any other large Nation I can think of. (They have this control because day pass laws against media that hurts China leaving their Nation or harsh punishment if you do something they don't like, and their state media system is huge and does a great job of brainwashing, etc.)

          So if you add that up it means once the virus was known worldwide the Chinese government was really pushing (or maybe just allowing) Big fear/ by allowing those videos to be seen by the world, Many many times with those fall down dead in the street videos.

          It's also kind of strange we didn't see lots of other of those "fall down in the street dying" type videos from countries that have surveillance systems (like a lot of Europe on every street corner) and some of those European countries were hit by the virus pretty bad and have a open media where those films would be available if things like that were actually happening.

          So once it got started why did did the Chinese government push the "Really fear this virus" videos?

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          • #6
            M76
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2014
            • 5954

            and the party in control of the WH are the ccp’s willing servants...
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            • #7
              harbormaster
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2017
              • 6125

              What good is the CIA Ir our governments Intel community if they couldn’t warn us about it.
              1. Compared to what?
              2. At what cost?
              3. What hard evidence do you have?

              T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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              • #8
                Hammertime
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 3495

                My question is how can anyone trust the government after this BS in Afghanistan? How can you rely on these total idiots.

                F them.

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                • #9
                  ACfixer
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 6053

                  Originally posted by Hammertime
                  My question is how can anyone trust the government after this BS in Afghanistan? How can you rely on these total idiots.

                  F them.
                  You didn't trust the government before the Afghan BS did you? You know... two impeachments, Steele Dossier, Nov 3rd, Jan 6th, George Floyd, Georgia senate races etc... I mean there's really two many things to count.

                  Originally posted by sealocan
                  People in the Chinese government knew what was going on yet allowed their citizens to travel overseas without warning them or warning other nations....
                  Originally posted by M76
                  and the party in control of the WH are the ccp’s willing servants...
                  All that, every bit of it. Well said gents.
                  Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                  • #10
                    stix213
                    AKA: Joe Censored
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18998

                    Early January for me and my step son. We just returned from a flight. Worst and longest lasting diarrhea and flu symptoms I've ever had.

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                    • #11
                      SanDiego619
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12310

                      Several people I know got sick in January of 2020, some got flu tests that came back negative. I had a mild fever for about a day, was fine after three days.

                      Covid? I think there's a good chance. Not getting tested for antibodies or anything, I am not participating in the covid game.
                      Last edited by SanDiego619; 09-07-2021, 3:12 PM.
                      Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                      • #12
                        SanDiego619
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 12310

                        Originally posted by sealocan
                        People in the Chinese government knew what was going on yet allowed their citizens to travel overseas without warning them or warning other nations.
                        But that's not the part I find a little strange...
                        Does anyone remember early on all those videos of people in China falling down seeming like they were dead or going to be dead very soon???
                        Falling down on the sidewalk? There or a few videos of a guys on the side of a highway? There were quite a few more where people were all over the front area of a hospital getting ready to die? Street cameras with video of people falling down in the street? etc. etc.etc.
                        Yet MANY other images and videos that the Chinese government wants to hide only break through to the mass media very occasionally and even their badly filmed, grainy shots from miles away, like for example those Northwestern Chinese Muslim detention re-education camps, that supposedly show thousands and thousands of prisoners which the video showed But that only came out once and from one video and then disappeared.

                        What I'm getting at is that China has a strong control on videos and media leaving their country. I don't think it's just my opinion that they have much more control than Any other large Nation I can think of. (They have this control because day pass laws against media that hurts China leaving their Nation or harsh punishment if you do something they don't like, and their state media system is huge and does a great job of brainwashing, etc.)

                        So if you add that up it means once the virus was known worldwide the Chinese government was really pushing (or maybe just allowing) Big fear/ by allowing those videos to be seen by the world, Many many times with those fall down dead in the street videos.

                        It's also kind of strange we didn't see lots of other of those "fall down in the street dying" type videos from countries that have surveillance systems (like a lot of Europe on every street corner) and some of those European countries were hit by the virus pretty bad and have a open media where those films would be available if things like that were actually happening.

                        So once it got started why did did the Chinese government push the "Really fear this virus" videos?
                        I thought about this too. China deliberately released those "people dropping dead" videos to pump up the fear around the world. They wanted the world to freak out and shut down over covid, they knew the election was coming up, they knew America was becoming strong again, they had to do something.
                        Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                        • #13
                          1bulletBarney
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                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 1906

                          Originally posted by stix213
                          Early January for me and my step son. We just returned from a flight. Worst and longest lasting diarrhea and flu symptoms I've ever had.
                          Originally posted by SanDiego619
                          Several people I know got sick in January of 2019, some got flu tests that came back negative. I had a mild fever for about a day, was fine after three days.

                          Covid? I think there's a good chance. Not getting tested for antibodies or anything, I am not participating in the covid game.
                          Late Dec 2019 or early Jan 2020 I got bad SICK. Awful flu like symptoms, fever, severe deep congestion in lungs. It was really bad. Funny thing was that after about 5 days symptoms eased up. After about 8 days I was clear and felt good. My usual MO for flu is to get sick & stay sick for several weeks, the crud likes to hang on...

                          Another thing of note since the last time I got sick I have not so much as suffered a sniffle. Have not done an antibody test and have not had a swab rammed up my nasal cavity. There have been times I thought I was coming down with something but next morning I always feel fine. I think the mind gets overwhelmed with COVID hysteria and can play tricks on me. Currently doing the FLCCC prevention protocol and have a supply of HCQ on hand as well...

                          No jab...
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                          • #14
                            ibanezfoo
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 11918

                            Nothing that bad but fever, chills, normal flu stuff in late Feb 2020. Literally the week the news started yacking about it.
                            vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                            • #15
                              SanDiego619
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 12310

                              Originally posted by 1bulletBarney
                              Late Dec 2019 or early Jan 2020 I got bad SICK. Awful flu like symptoms, fever, severe deep congestion in lungs. It was really bad. Funny thing was that after about 5 days symptoms eased up. After about 8 days I was clear and felt good. My usual MO for flu is to get sick & stay sick for several weeks, the crud likes to hang on...

                              Another thing of note since the last time I got sick I have not so much as suffered a sniffle. Have not done an antibody test and have not had a swab rammed up my nasal cavity. There have been times I thought I was coming down with something but next morning I always feel fine. I think the mind gets overwhelmed with COVID hysteria and can play tricks on me. Currently doing the FLCCC prevention protocol and have a supply of HCQ on hand as well...

                              No jab...
                              Oops, I said 2019. I meant January 2020. I wasn't that sick though.

                              I did have the flu several years earlier than that and felt REALLY BAD!!!! I thought I was going to die, and thought if I was an old person I'd probably die. I couldn't believe how bad I felt.
                              Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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