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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13545

    CDC is not tracking 'cases' among the vaxxed

    While some of our home-grown 'virologists' cling to the myth of 95% vaccine effectiveness, CDC must still imagine it is 100%! Otherwise... why would they not even bother tracking 'cases' among the vaccinated? They must be cured - hence no need to track. It's impossible for them to have covid.

    A May 1 decision by the CDC to only track breakthrough infections that lead to hospitalization or death has left the nation with a muddled understanding of COVID-19’s impact on the vaccinated.


    To be fair, deaths and hospitalizations are counted, and labeled "Breakthrough" (implying that it's very unlikely for someone to get covid after the vaccine)
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    bigbossman
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2012
    • 11017

    Can't keep the horses stampeded if you don't massage the numbers properly.
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    • #3
      Hammertime
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 3495

      Yep, now I know a HUGE amount of customers, family, friends etc that are some how a “rare” breakthrough case.

      Again, I’ve noticed significant cognitive decline among all people I come into contact with after these shut downs and mask mandates (not saying I’m not unaffected, most of us went through a LOT the last couple years), but definitely among those who openly identify as “vAcCiNaTeD”. To a point I am now hyper aware of the truth of this.

      How many times have you seen mask freakers out in public, putting their dirty masks ON TOP OF THEIR BEVERAGES LIKE A COASTER, drive with a mask on, walk alone with a mask on, force completely healthy children to put masks on (even yelling at them) vote for the child toucher and still blame orange man for everything?!

      I’m getting out of the service industry because it’s literally every day and I can’t hear this bs anymore. They come in masked, proceed to sit down, take the mask off, stand up hug and talk to everyone in the room. Wow. Yeah. Everyone I have seen. It’s not manageable or congruent with a deadly virus. This IS an IQ test more than a sickness then it gets worse. You are lambasted and put in a corner when you don’t agree or have a counter point. It’s nuts. It is a risk to be in public. I had the virus already so being talked to open faced for the last couple years has not gotten me sick again, not even a sniffle, though I talk to thousands of people a week.

      No use in trying to coddle anymore.

      How many years until the case studies come out where you perma f***** your brain and body by taking a completely voluntary jab?!

      My ultimate question that has never been answered; why are you so angry at people who are not going to vaccinate because of personal beliefs, of due diligence or because of family medical history?! If you are so sure of your research and the drug(s) you took, why blame me?! Why talk about it non stop?! Why not look into PREVENTATIVE measures and proven TREATMENTS for an ailment that will not kill 99.7% of anyone?! If you are at risk, take measures. If you are a perfectly healthy individual who is not at risk and got it, that’s on you.

      I have natural immunity. Don’t make me do anything as I would never force you to do the same. Except think. Maybe that.
      Last edited by Hammertime; 08-26-2021, 10:55 AM.

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      • #4
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Case numbers altogether should largely be ignored. The vaccinated are less likely to go for testing (because many still think they can't catch it), many companies and schools have mandatory testing requirements for unvaccinated that aren't applied to vaccinated. So comparing numbers between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn't that helpful. Uneven application of testing guarantees uneven and misleading results.

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        • #5
          sd_shooter
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 13545

          Originally posted by stix213
          Case numbers altogether should largely be ignored. The vaccinated are less likely to go for testing (because many still think they can't catch it), many companies and schools have mandatory testing requirements for unvaccinated that aren't applied to vaccinated. So comparing numbers between vaccinated and unvaccinated isn't that helpful. Uneven application of testing guarantees uneven and misleading results.
          Fully agree - but it's likely the intentionally skewed counting will continue

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          • #6
            Hammertime
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 3495

            Yep, “cases” don’t equal deaths does not equal current mandates, does not equal science.

            When people ask if I am vaccinated and they don’t have a mask on: you have just put yourself at risk by entering an establishment full of mixed personnel.”

            Masked: “Huh?! Can’t hear you?!” (Repeat until they remove mask to yell and tell); then I repeat my first stance.
            Last edited by Hammertime; 08-26-2021, 2:31 PM.

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            • #7
              2shotjoe
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 26466

              Originally posted by el chivo
              they are also not counting deaths within 14 days of getting the shot as being vaccine related.

              Imagine that! If someone drops dead right there in the vaccination center, they won't count it, because they say a vaccine takes 14 days to work.

              It may take 14 days to work but it doesn't take 14 days to kill you.

              Meanwhile the CDC whistleblower (Renz) has checked deaths within one week of the jab, it's over 200,000. She previously checked deaths withing 3 days of the jab and it was 45,000. This is scuttlebutt however even the CDC has 13,000 deaths on their public VAERS site. I'm sure they're hard at work deleting any entries that happened within 14 days of taking the jab.
              right? you're not fully vaccinated until your 14 days out from the last shot. that's how it's being applied at work.
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              • #8
                theduracellbigd
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1134

                Originally posted by sd_shooter
                While some of our home-grown 'virologists' cling to the myth of 95% vaccine effectiveness, CDC must still imagine it is 100%! Otherwise... why would they not even bother tracking 'cases' among the vaccinated? They must be cured - hence no need to track. It's impossible for them to have covid.

                A May 1 decision by the CDC to only track breakthrough infections that lead to hospitalization or death has left the nation with a muddled understanding of COVID-19’s impact on the vaccinated.




                To be fair, deaths and hospitalizations are counted, and labeled "Breakthrough" (implying that it's very unlikely for someone to get covid after the vaccine)
                Wow Shooter, you are up tp 12 posts in one day, that has to be a Calguns record.

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                • #9
                  theduracellbigd
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1134

                  Originally posted by bigbossman
                  Can't keep the horses stampeded if you don't massage the numbers properly.
                  Well Fox and CNN are all over Afghanistan now because COVID is becoming old news to most of us except a few and they need click bait. You really have to scroll down to find Covid stuff.

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                  • #10
                    the_tunaman
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2367

                    Wife’s hospital admissions are running approximately 50/50 vaxxed since they started actually tracking that factor a few weeks ago. Prior to that they were not collecting that data.

                    It is still questionable, as it is a bit of an onerous process to input that information into a separate module. Regardless, the numbers they are seeing is quite high for the experimental injection.
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                    • #11
                      SAN compnerd
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                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 4725

                      I thought everyone knew this.

                      They also have different Ct thresholds for PCR tests for the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated.

                      Vaccinated are <25

                      Unvaccinated are >35

                      And just like magic the vaccine works.
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                      • #12
                        SPUTTER
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 7504

                        Isn't efficacy below 50% in Israel?

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                        • #13
                          sbo80
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 2264

                          Originally posted by el chivo
                          Meanwhile the CDC whistleblower (Renz) has checked deaths within one week of the jab, it's over 200,000. She previously checked deaths withing 3 days of the jab and it was 45,000. This is scuttlebutt however even the CDC has 13,000 deaths on their public VAERS site. I'm sure they're hard at work deleting any entries that happened within 14 days of taking the jab.
                          Still those are misleading statistics either way because we don't know enough about the sample. Early on, it was the highest risk and most elderly that were getting the vax, and frankly quite a few of them would be dying within 3 days of any event. Of the millions of elderly, thousands of them die within 3 days of eating green beans too. Not saying these numbers are wrong, or insignificant, but drawing conclusions without actually knowing the sample details, and how it compares to other things, is not appropriate. This is a single data point, which could itself be flawed. Now, it would be good to know really what's happening. Like how we would know if we did proper long-term, controlled studies on the vaccine efficacy and side effects - you know like was done for every other vaccine ever.

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                          • #14
                            the_tunaman
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2367

                            Originally posted by sbo80
                            Still those are misleading statistics either way because we don't know enough about the sample. Early on, it was the highest risk and most elderly that were getting the vax, and frankly quite a few of them would be dying within 3 days of any event. Of the millions of elderly, thousands of them die within 3 days of eating green beans too. Not saying these numbers are wrong, or insignificant, but drawing conclusions without actually knowing the sample details, and how it compares to other things, is not appropriate. This is a single data point, which could itself be flawed. Now, it would be good to know really what's happening. Like how we would know if we did proper long-term, controlled studies on the vaccine efficacy and side effects - you know like was done for every other vaccine ever.
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                            • #15
                              sd_shooter
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 13545

                              Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                              I thought everyone knew this.

                              They also have different Ct thresholds for PCR tests for the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated.

                              Vaccinated are <25

                              Unvaccinated are >35

                              And just like magic the vaccine works.
                              Hard to draw conclusions with such bad data. GIGO applies.

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