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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13549

    New surge in Israel: Inoculated people get infected again

    The vax isn't working, only 'experts' who would lose face still preach the impossible theoretical metrics.



    Source article:
    “I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”


  • #2
    SPUTTER
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 7504


    Regular boosters will be the new normal.

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    • #3
      sd_shooter
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2008
      • 13549

      Originally posted by SPUTTER
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/delta-...ts-covid-czar/
      Regular boosters will be the new normal.
      Morons.

      and we may have to take a mask for many months and maybe years
      Sweden is looking good

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      • #4
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        I like how the article blames regular people who dared to travel from their tiny country.

        What they leave out is international travel generally requires vaccination, so these would be the vaccinated responsible for importing the delta variant.

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        • #5
          wpage
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2011
          • 6071

          More a shadow on the Pfizer vac then the travel thing. Since Israel is a control type country. Could be a indicator of trend.
          God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
          John 3:16

          NRA,,, Lifer

          United Air Epic Fail Video ...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg

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          • #6
            abinsinia
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 4179

            They play strange word games with the numbers like,

            ... with 80 percent of citizens above the age of 12 fully inoculated ..
            so maybe %70 of all people (including under 12) are vaxxed ..

            It's hard to compare the vaccine effectiveness if you don't know the percentage of all people with vaccine.

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            • #7
              abinsinia
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 4179

              According to this,



              Israel’s population is considered young relative to the populations of other Western countries.

              As of 2021, 28% of the population was aged 0-14 ...
              So you assume %25 are 12 and under and %75 12 and over, it means %80 of %75 is %60 which is the vaccination rate of the total population.

              Last I heard Israel had over %50 of people who had been hospitalized had the vaccines. Which means the vaccines are only effective with less than %10 of people.
              Last edited by abinsinia; 08-25-2021, 8:12 PM.

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              • #8
                sigfan91
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2009
                • 10306

                Originally posted by abinsinia
                According to this,





                So you assume %25 are 12 and under and %75 12 and over, it means %80 of %75 is %60 which is the vaccination rate of the total population.

                Last I heard Israel had over %50 of people who had been hospitalized had the vaccines. Which means the vaccines are only effective with less than %10 of people.
                No, your number is off. "50% of the hospitalized were vaccinated" is different from "50% of the vaccinated were hospitalized." There could be 200 people hospitalized and 100 were vaccinated. That's still "50% of the hospitalized were vaccinated."

                There are 9.3 million people in Israel (I didn't know there are that many people in Israel). Assuming 60% of that are fully vaccinated, that makes 5.6 million. There can't be 2.8 million hospitalized by this disease. That would destroy the country.

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                • #9
                  abinsinia
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 4179

                  Originally posted by sigfan91
                  No, your number is off. "50% of the hospitalized were vaccinated" is different from "50% of the vaccinated were hospitalized." There could be 200 people hospitalized and 100 were vaccinated. That's still "50% of the hospitalized were vaccinated."

                  There are 9.3 million people in Israel (I didn't know there are that many people in Israel). Assuming 60% of that are fully vaccinated, that makes 5.6 million. There can't be 2.8 million hospitalized by this disease. That would destroy the country.
                  I don't think I ever suggested half the population was hospitalized.

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                  • #10
                    Regular guy
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 691

                    Seems like everyone needs to be exposed to delta and the survivors ( 99.97%) will move on with life. Delta is herd immunity knocking on the door.

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                    • #11
                      MJB
                      CGSSA Associate
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5925

                      Delta has been a nothing burger in regards to deaths...... Infections without deaths normal flu
                      One life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!

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                      • #12
                        sigfan91
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 10306

                        Originally posted by abinsinia
                        I don't think I ever suggested half the population was hospitalized.
                        I inferred it from your 10% effective (60% - 50%) number. I'm probably totally wrong...

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