Prophylaxis alternative to Vaccination

[Sousuke]

Saw this across a few financial websites today.

A Prophylaxis option is seeking approval having just completed its phase 3 trial.

From the looks of it, it uses a pair of antibodies from convalescent patients.

The PROVENT version looks successful at stopping symptoms. There was an earlier version called Storm Chaser that failed earlier this summer.

Just thought I'd share this, as it might be an option for those who might not want to be vaccinated.

The link below is from their website, but you can also find info via Marketwatch etc.

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/azd7442-prophylaxis-trial-met-primary-endpoint.html

[Palmaris]

It doesn’t fit to “saving lives” agenda, I wouldn’t expect to be popular.

[sd_shooter]

Likely also doctors/hospitals Forbidden from using it by their medical boards, the CDC and FDA.

Besides, why would they leave $40k on the table when they can just put the patient on a vent?

[HibikiR]

The question is how much? Typical IVIG is >$60/gram, with a 5-bag treatment course costing ~$10,000 for the IVIG alone. Then you add the costs for the equipment and labor.

Plasma products, such as antibodies, are limited by the amount of suitable donors that actually go out of their way to provide said plasma. Scarcity and price and all that.

The "protective" ability of these antibodies is short-lived too as the lifespan of antibodies is short, what people don't learn in high school biology is that immune/vaccinated people have things called B-cells that replenish the supply of antibodies through out their lifetime. That's where the long term protection comes from. Unless B-cells, and their associated T-helper cell, are being injected too, this treatment has no long term protection.

[Sousuke]

The question is how much? Typical IVIG is >$60/gram, with a 5-bag treatment course costing ~$10,000 for the IVIG alone. Then you add the costs for the equipment and labor.

Plasma products, such as antibodies, are limited by the amount of suitable donors that actually go out of their way to provide said plasma. Scarcity and price and all that.

The "protective" ability of these antibodies is short-lived too as the lifespan of antibodies is short, what people don't learn in high school biology is that immune/vaccinated people have things called B-cells that replenish the supply of antibodies through out their lifetime. That's where the long term protection comes from. Unless B-cells, and their associated T-helper cell, are being injected too, this treatment has no long term protection.

Yeah, I probably should have clarified. While there may be a market for people wanting to skip vaccines but have protection from this, the real goal was to provide protection to those that simply cannot have the vaccines, ie. if they were vaccinated their immune system doesn't mount a response. From the research, this would give them around 10 months protection.

As for cost, its being run similar to the vaccines, so governments (including the US) are ordering and not passing it on to users.

[sd_shooter]

Alternatives

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-%E2%80%93-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf

[HibikiR]

Yeah, I probably should have clarified. While there may be a market for people wanting to skip vaccines but have protection from this, the real goal was to provide protection to those that simply cannot have the vaccines, ie. if they were vaccinated their immune system doesn't mount a response. From the research, this would give them around 10 months protection.

As for cost, its being run similar to the vaccines, so governments (including the US) are ordering and not passing it on to users.

One of the antibodies they cited as a base for this product is ~$500 per Microgram. It's not the same thing as this new product, but I believe there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Also, people here are wetting themselves over the prospect of booster shots, this antibody treatment is also a multi-dose prospect.

[stix213]

With how bad the vaccines are doing, simple Vitamin D is looking like a better alternative.

Study, vitamin D deficiency results in 80% more likely to acquire covid.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7973108/

Study, take covid positive individuals with vitamin D deficiency and give them high dose vitamin D. 62.5% covid negative within 21 days vs 20.8% in control group.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33184146/

Study, geriatric hospitalized covid patients 3 month survival rate receiving low dose vitamin D supplements. 76.1% survival vs 53.6% in control group

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8319044/

[sigstroker]

The question is how much? Typical IVIG is >$60/gram, with a 5-bag treatment course costing ~$10,000 for the IVIG alone. Then you add the costs for the equipment and labor.

Plasma products, such as antibodies, are limited by the amount of suitable donors that actually go out of their way to provide said plasma. Scarcity and price and all that.

The "protective" ability of these antibodies is short-lived too as the lifespan of antibodies is short, what people don't learn in high school biology is that immune/vaccinated people have things called B-cells that replenish the supply of antibodies through out their lifetime. That's where the long term protection comes from. Unless B-cells, and their associated T-helper cell, are being injected too, this treatment has no long term protection.

Her husband, the OP, that had the rona, will probably donate his plasma for a very reasonable price.

[stonefly-2]

One of the antibodies they cited as a base for this product is ~$500 per Microgram. It's not the same thing as this new product, but I believe there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Also, people here are wetting themselves over the prospect of booster shots, this antibody treatment is also a multi-dose prospect.

Plasma you say?

[HibikiR]

Sorry, the bit about plasma was for convalescent plasma. Monoclonal antibodies are produced in labs using genetically modified cancer cells. Still expensive and time consuming though, so that limitation going to haunt this medication.

[stonefly-2]

Sorry, the bit about plasma was for convalescent plasma. Monoclonal antibodies are produced in labs using genetically modified cancer cells. Still expensive and time consuming though, so that limitation going to haunt this medication.

But not completely eliminated as a possible treatment like you were blowing off about before?

[HibikiR]

But not completely eliminated as a possible treatment like you were blowing off about before?

Completely blown off as a form of long term immunity. I never doubted it's ability to act as short or short-ish prophylaxis.

10 months isn't a lifetime for most people. However, if you like Big Pharm bending you over and taking your cash bigly as they stick you every 10 months, you could make it lifetime-ish.

[stonefly-2]

Completely blown off as a form of long term immunity. I never doubted it's ability to act as short or short-ish prophylaxis.

10 months isn't a lifetime for most people. However, if you like Big Pharm bending you over and taking your cash bigly as they stick you every 10 months, you could make it lifetime-ish.

Yeah.....that's just not so,

You sniveled like a little bi..h and cited basic high school biology instruction as the basis for why blood transfusions could be no help whatever.

Now you're plasma boy and I need my as. kissed.

[HibikiR]

Ah, instead of actually refuting my points you just went to insults. Yeah, that's some real big brain stuff there. /sarcasm

Hell, you can't even say why all the alternative solutions like Vitamin D are inferior to the antibodies you're obsessed with pimping. This is all about your fractured ego instead of actual scientific interest.

You can keep stalking me and get nothing or you can be a grown man and move on.