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  • #31
    LBDamned
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 19040

    What's a CNN?
    "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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    • #32
      Widdle
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2011
      • 2491

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      • #33
        MongooseV8
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4426

        Originally posted by golfish
        I had it in March. I talked to my Doc early this week, he said that he has seen a few patients that have had covid twice. Mrs golfish the RN says they (Arrowhead Hospital) have more then one patient with covid that have had the vaccine......

        I'm not yet sold on the vaccine...
        Impossible to prove x2 covid with our current methods. When you have ~40% accuracy test and trouble telling what is or isnt covid; a small number of people will appear to get it more than once.

        Last I checked the total of "confirmed" cases was 2700 out of ~200 million positives.

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        • #34
          SPUTTER
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2009
          • 7504

          From what I understand immunity is for life so long as you are healthy. Watch the interview with Dr Michael Yeadon, he says this and also says asymptomatic transmission is bs.

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          • #35
            Epaphroditus
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4888

            This is fake news. Get back to me in 10 years.
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            • #36
              MongooseV8
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4426

              1. You get exposed to a virus
              2. The virus infects your body and begins to replicate
              3. Your immune system figures out how to defeat the virus and produces the appropriate antibodies
              4. The virus is all dead and your immune system scales back and eventually stops producing antibodies
              5. If you are exposed in the future your immune system remembers the specific virus and starts producing the appropriate antibodies again

              The number of antibodies and how long they remain in your system is irrelevant since you will make more in the future. The only thing they can affect is your next exposure; if a high viral load, can cause you to show symptoms while your body kills the virus. But technically you wouldnt be infected twice since your immune system immediately starts killing virus cells.

              The cold and flu have like 20 different strains and they mutate a few strains each year. So it may seem like you keep catching the same cold but it really isnt.

              I personally havent seen any sound scientific evidence to suggest you can be infected by covid twice. And there is 100 years of data to support the claim that you cant.

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              • #37
                HibikiR
                Senior Member
                • May 2014
                • 2417

                Originally posted by MongooseV8
                4. The virus is all dead and your immune system scales back and eventually stops producing antibodies
                5. If you are exposed in the future your immune system remembers the specific virus and starts producing the appropriate antibodies again.
                A bit wrong at these points. Small details really.

                IgG antibodies (the mainstay of immunity) only have a half-life of ~30 days, so to maintain long term immunity there must be production. That means some antibody producing plasma cells (a type of mature B-cell) are still active, but they eventually decrease some years later.

                When your body encounters the virus again the T-helper cells that are specific to the antigen(s) of the virus will activate B memory cells (other type of mature B-cell) that will produce the plasma cells needed to produce more antibodies.

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                • #38
                  the_tunaman
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2375

                  Thanks. That all makes sense, but it is a wonder and a tragic shame that the medical community isn’t all up in arms yelling this from the mountain tops.

                  I’ve seen some voices of reason back when I was doing my own research, but they were few and far between and mostly ostracized for their alternative viewpoints. And of course, most are also censored by our wonderful MSM and tech giants.

                  I never could have imagined us getting to where we are today.
                  MAGA - drain the swamp^D^D^D^D^Dcesspool!
                  Proud deplorable wacist!
                  #NotMyStateGovernment!
                  Just remember BAMN - there is no level too low for them to stoop!
                  COVID survivor - ain?t gonna get pricked!

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                  • #39
                    SPUTTER
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7504

                    Because this isn't about a virus, it's about injecting people. For what? That's the million dollar question.

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                    • #40
                      sigfan91
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 10510

                      I have this crazy idea. Hear me out.

                      What if we somehow get human's immune system to "think" it had encountered the real wuhan virus, but not? It would trick the immune system to respond and produce a lifetime of antibodies. Maybe we can somehow use a very small amount of deactivated virus particle or something like that to accomplish the trick. Enough for the body to react, but not enough to cause sickness. Would that work?

                      You heard it here first guys. Don't steal my idea. I plan to patent this technique.

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                      • #41
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34820

                        Originally posted by The Gleam
                        Willing to bet Moderna, J&J, and Pfizer are behind the supposed "science" imploring that those that already had COVID still need the vaccine.

                        It would take much for them to grease a palm or promise a large campaign contribution to make it happen on a government mandate and social-engineering scale.

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                        • #42
                          lastinline
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 2364

                          Originally posted by SPUTTER

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                          • #43
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34820

                            Originally posted by sigfan91
                            I have this crazy idea. Hear me out.

                            What if we somehow get human's immune system to "think" it had encountered the real wuhan virus, but not? It would trick the immune system to respond and produce a lifetime of antibodies. Maybe we can somehow use a very small amount of deactivated virus particle or something like that to accomplish the trick. Enough for the body to react, but not enough to cause sickness. Would that work?

                            You heard it here first guys. Don't steal my idea. I plan to patent this technique.
                            You kind of have to isolate the virus and replicate it before you could do that. Been reading lately as this is never been done yet.

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                            • #44
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34820


                              I bet she love you long time give you anything you want

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                              • #45
                                sigfan91
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 10510

                                Originally posted by five.five-six
                                You kind of have to isolate the virus and replicate it before you could do that. Been reading lately as this is never been done yet.
                                Bah! Don't bother me with details.

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