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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 9041

    We Predicted It Would Come To This - Coerced Consent Is Almost Here

    We've been predicting it for awhile. Constitutional lawyer/scholar Jonathan Turley called it about a week ago... Turley: Biden turning private business into a 'type of shadow state' with 'coerced consent' vaccine approach

    Four days ago...

    Yesterday...

    The White House did not deny a report that the Biden administration is considering leveraging federal financial muscle to push institutions to require Americans get vaccinated...

    ...the Washington Post reported Thursday that the administration is considering withholding federal funds and using federal regulatory powers in a bid to push Americans to get vaccinated.

    The plan could target institutions such as long-term-care facilities, cruise ships, and universities, hoping to reach many of the 90 million Americans who are eligible for the vaccine but have not yet received it.

    One area the plan could focus on is restricting access to federal funds such as Medicare in a bid to persuade nursing homes and long-term-care facilities to require that their employees get vaccinated, the Post reported...
    This morning... After months of vaccine incentives, nation changes course: For the unvaccinated, life is about to get harder.

    ...A rising chorus of states, cities and private sector titans have implemented new vaccine requirements for their employees and patrons. It marks a new, less negotiable phase in the fight against the coronavirus, after months of cajoling and material goodies leading the vaccination campaign...

    Unvaccinated Americans must now weigh their own personal risk-benefit ratio: Take the vaccine or face restrictions.

    "The carrots do not work much," Caplan said. "Now, we're seeing more pressure coming from the other side."

    That pressure is coming in the form of federal, state and local vaccine requirements...

    The Biden administration has made clear there will be no federal mandate; but its recent lean-in to vaccine requirements marks a shift in tone, going from from removing barriers to getting the vaccine to making it harder to move about "normal" life for those who choose not to get it.

    "There's a bit of a hassle factor that plays into whether or not people are willing to get an exemption," Julie Morita, executive vice president of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, told ABC. "And if it's too difficult or more challenging, people might opt just to get vaccinated."...

    The advent of more local mandates looms on the imminent horizon as soon as the vaccine is fully FDA-approved, which could come as soon as early September, a senior White House official familiar with the FDA approval process told ABC News...

    "'My body, my choice' is not an ethic for a plague," Caplan said. "The ethics of plague are, 'my body, vaccinated' -- more choices for everybody."
    Another from this morning...

    How much of this is "bluff," how much is real, and, as suggested in the one piece above, how much of this can actually be done legally vs. how much are they going to try and do, then let the courts "figure it out" is to be determined.

    But, it seems we're about to go from "informed" consent to "coerced" consent.
    Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 08-06-2021, 7:08 AM.
  • #2
    Dirtlaw
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2018
    • 3480

    This is a really slippery slope that could foreshadow a "mark" in order to buy or sell, etc.

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    • #3
      Oceanbob
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2010
      • 12719

      Originally posted by Dirtlaw
      This is a really slippery slope that could foreshadow a "mark" in order to buy or sell, etc.
      May the Bridges I burn light the way.

      Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

      Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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      • #4
        TrappedinCalifornia
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2018
        • 9041

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        • #5
          LBDamned
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2011
          • 19040

          F-ing idiotic.
          "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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          • #6
            Dano3467
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2013
            • 7381

            All this pressure on the legal citizens while letting in in documented illegals who (many) who carry the virus.
            It's all so much BS.

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            • #7
              USMCmatt
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 803

              I did find out I'm not considered one of the employees mandated to get the vaccine last night from my Director. The bad news is that any promotion I would want would require occasional travel, so I'm basically knee-capped from advancement as of now. Pretty crappy since I was told I had a bright future here and was impressing all the right people.

              Once the vaccine is FDA-approved, I would be more willing to get it. However, if they rush the approval, then my confidence goes down.
              Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13
              ______________________________________
              USMC OEF Veteran

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              • #8
                Dirtlaw
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Apr 2018
                • 3480

                Originally posted by Dano3467
                All this pressure on the legal citizens while letting in in documented illegals who (many) who carry the virus.
                It's all so much BS.

                Too many lies ...

                Too many half truths ...

                Too many hot and cold positions (which is supposed to be the truth?) ...

                Too many inconsistent positions (illegals referenced above) ...

                Too much coercion ...

                Gives rise to questions as well as doubt

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                • #9
                  sd_shooter
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 13572

                  Originally posted by Oceanbob
                  To protect us all
                  The covid is over per CDC. There's nothing to protect us from.

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                  • #10
                    stix213
                    AKA: Joe Censored
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18998

                    There's no evidence with the Delta variant that vaccination offers any level of societal protection against transmission. Whether I get the vaccine appears to have nothing to do with whether I will give you Delta.

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                    • #11
                      ibanezfoo
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 11698

                      This is fine. This is how you create roaming bands of heavily armed and hungry people. If this is what they want, let them have it. They defunded the police so its only a matter of time before they are eaten.
                      vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                      • #12
                        ibanezfoo
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11698

                        You don't seriously believe that do you?
                        vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                        • #13
                          ibanezfoo
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 11698

                          Originally posted by Dirtlaw
                          Too many lies ...

                          Too many half truths ...

                          Too many hot and cold positions (which is supposed to be the truth?) ...

                          Too many inconsistent positions (illegals referenced above) ...

                          Too much coercion ...

                          Gives rise to questions as well as doubt
                          Thats about the size of it right there...
                          vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                          • #14
                            PHenry2015
                            Member
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 212

                            I hear you. Keeping a job in this environment is a huge win. I wouldn't worry too much about promotion/advancement right now.

                            Personally, I am going to apply for an exception, based on my health record. Will see how that goes. If not, I'll request to continue working from home. I feel like the big con is bound to collapse soon as more people see that the so-called vax is not a vax at all, so I'm trying to wait it out. If I have to find a new job, so be it. My immune system is priceless, and I'd rather be poor than damage it with this garbage jab.


                            Originally posted by USMCmatt
                            I did find out I'm not considered one of the employees mandated to get the vaccine last night from my Director. The bad news is that any promotion I would want would require occasional travel, so I'm basically knee-capped from advancement as of now. Pretty crappy since I was told I had a bright future here and was impressing all the right people.

                            Once the vaccine is FDA-approved, I would be more willing to get it. However, if they rush the approval, then my confidence goes down.

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                            • #15
                              Dan_Eastvale
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 10076

                              Originally posted by Dano3467
                              All this pressure on the legal citizens while letting in in documented illegals who (many) who carry the virus.
                              It's all so much BS.
                              Biden is breaking all immigation laws currently in place. He cannot rewrite law.
                              He cannot do what he is doing. It's criminal on a massive scale and he needs to be incarserated.

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