More vaccinated people die.

[madmax64]

[sigfan91]

Are those numbers right?

100 fully vaccinated have died.

2.44% of those who died were fully vaccinated.

Does that mean 4098 (100/0.0244) have died in that time span due to wuhan virus? Or 4098 have died in total, over the last 18 months in Illinois, and 100 were fully vaccinated?

Not a whole lot of information to go on to do any meaningful comparison.

[madmax64]

I think 2.44% of the people who died were vaccinated. That means 97.56% of vaccinated have not died?

Not sure about un-vaccinated people.

[sigfan91]

I think 2.44% of the people who died were vaccinated. That means 97.56% of vaccinated have not died?

Not sure about un-vaccinated people.

I read that sentence as

"2.44% of the people who died from wuhan virus were fully vaccinated."

- not -

"2.44% of people who were vaccinated died from wuhan virus."

Like I said, just a blurb on TV and very hard to get meaningful conclusion out of it.

[stix213]

Are those numbers right?

100 fully vaccinated have died.

2.44% of those who died were fully vaccinated.

Does that mean 4098 (100/0.0244) have died in that time span due to wuhan virus? Or 4098 have died in total, over the last 18 months in Illinois, and 100 were fully vaccinated?

Not a whole lot of information to go on to do any meaningful comparison.

Yeah I don't get it. According to illinois' own stats, 23,476 total deaths attributed to Covid have occurred since the start of the scamdemic. So this 100 vaccinated deaths would be approx 0.42% of the overall total. But that includes when there was no vaccine at all, so isn't even really a useful number.

https://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics

I don't know what 4098 deaths they are referring to here. Maybe from Jan 1? But even then that isn't all that useful either. What we'd really want to see are recent deaths, like in the last 2 months or so since before then vaccination rates would have been pretty low. But I don't believe 4k people have died from Covid in Illinois in just the last couple months.

[LBDamned]

Bottom line is - a fraction of a percent of people will die no matter what we do.

It's been over 18 months... time to move on.

[anthonyca]

Isreal is about 2 months ahead of us on getting the vast majority of adults, even non high risk, both shots. Those shots are starting to wear off and we will see if ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) as has happened in virtually every corona virus vaccine in the past.

Stop rushing this and let's study the vaccinated for 3 to 10 years as we have for vaccines in the past before giving dull approval. Add that this is the first large scale time mRNA has ever been used beyond preliminary testing and we should be even more cautious.

[sigfan91]

Isreal is about 2 months ahead of us on getting the vast majority of adults, even non high risk, both shots. Those shots are starting to wear off and we will see if ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) as has happened in virtually every corona virus vaccine in the past.

Stop rushing this and let's study the vaccinated for 3 to 10 years as we have for vaccines in the past before giving dull approval. Add that this is the first large scale time mRNA has ever been used beyond preliminary testing and we should be even more cautious.

I don't think we need 3 to 10 years this time. We have way more test subjects than ever before

[ibanezfoo]

Bottom line is - a fraction of a percent of people will die no matter what we do.

It's been over 18 months... time to move on.

Are you kidding? And give up the greatest tyrannical tool ever deployed in human history? Its never going away. Somebody let the genie out then smashed the bottle.

[71MUSTY]

I think 2.44% of the people who died were vaccinated. That means 97.56% of vaccinated have not died?

Not sure about un-vaccinated people.

Actually that means 97.56 of people who died were unvaccinated

[71MUSTY]

Isreal is about 2 months ahead of us on getting the vast majority of adults, even non high risk, both shots. Those shots are starting to wear off and we will see if ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) as has happened in virtually every corona virus vaccine in the past.

Stop rushing this and let's study the vaccinated for 3 to 10 years as we have for vaccines in the past before giving dull approval. Add that this is the first large scale time mRNA has ever been used beyond preliminary testing and we should be even more cautious.

FALSE No evidence of ADE what so ever. It was always expected a % of Vaccinated would get it. Nothing newsworthy except to a fear monger.

[seal20]

Wait two months. We'll see what happens in Israel.

[anthonyca]

FALSE No evidence of ADE what so ever. It was always expected a % of Vaccinated would get it. Nothing newsworthy except to a fear monger.

Why rhe rush? Why are vaccinated cases rising so fast, especially in people who got this some time ago? Isreal is a few months ahead of us.

It was never expected that this percent of vaccinated people would get sick.

[SPUTTER]

FALSE No evidence of ADE what so ever. It was always expected a % of Vaccinated would get it. Nothing newsworthy except to a fear monger.

I hope you are right but there's no evidence that it won't cause ADE. There should have been evidence prior to rolling it out, because they should have studied it. The FDA recommended they study for ADE but they didn't. Why? And as far as I know they aren't interested in finding out despite knowing there's a possibility of it happening. They admitted it's a possible side effect.

The truth is that a variant, if there even is one, should not be that much different from the original virus so a vaccine should protect against any variant. CDC and the media are lying about the variant breakthough to cover up something that's looking much worse.

[anthonyca]

I hope you are right but there's no evidence that it won't cause ADE. There should have been evidence prior to rolling it out, because they should have studied it. The FDA recommended they study for ADE but they didn't. Why? And as far as I know they aren't interested in finding out despite knowing there's a possibility of it happening. They admitted it's a possible side effect.

The truth is that a variant, if there even is one, should not be that much different from the original virus so a vaccine should protect against any variant. CDC and the media are lying about the variant breakthough to cover up something that's looking much worse.

Right, every virologist who said ADE was a concern and it has happened with virtually every corona vaccine ever tried in the past, is that ADE would take a while to manifest. This is why this need to not be rushed.