If you had to get the vax... which one and why?

[FlyingShooter]

I understand that this issue puts some of you in a difficult situation but capitulating is just going to open the door for possibly more medical experiments you don't want. It's abundantly clear that CDC/gov continue to shift their policy with no end in sight. Experiment with your health, and God forbid you may never be able to work again.

So I should have just let myself get fired, lose all my families income and health coverage, and gone of welfare instead?

Tit for tat situation in my case my friend….i’d have preferred not to get the jab, but my current way of life is more important to me and my family than being stubborn.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

For some time now, I have said that, out of the 3 currently 'authorized' in the U.S., I'd opt for the J&J.

Have there been issues with the J&J? Yes, to some degree.

Reports of adverse events following the use of J&J/Janssen vaccine suggest an increased risk of a rare adverse event called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS). Nearly all reports of this serious condition, which involves blood clots with low platelets, have been in adult women younger than 50 years old.

What doctors wish patients knew about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine

The differences between the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines and the J&J have been gone into before... Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?

That doesn't mean I intend to get the J&J (or any other) and it certainly doesn't mean I feel it is unequivocally 'safe.' It just means that, out of the three options available, it's the one I would opt for. YMMV, but at least one here seems to have taken it with few regrets... Got the jab last week

I'm personally waiting to see what happens with the Novavax. That's not because I think it is 'better.' It's because more options will be available to choose from and, by then, it could be that 'mandates' will no longer be as 'hot and heavily' sought as they appear to be now; in part, due to alternative treatments being available and, perhaps, being a 'better' option for many should things prove out the way many of us feel insofar as this being endemic and 'vaccines' being no more effective (maybe less so) than "flu vaccines" are now.

I'm also leaning, perhaps a bit too much, on 'natural immunity' in that the last illness I had was in January 2020 and it was 'nastier' than usual; meaning that the possibility exists that I've had COVID. Testing wasn't available at that moment and I don't go to the doctor for "a cold" anyway. Also bear in mind that "natural immunity" isn't, unfortunately, a workaround for mandates given the 'hysteria-of-the-moment.'

[SPUTTER]

Might want to wait for the new Pfizer pill.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Might want to wait for the new Pfizer pill.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pfizer/st...74141686255624

Actually, you're beginning to touch on what many of us have come 'round to.

An endemic disease may utilize vaccines, but if they require additional treatment, then the 'vaccines' are not preventives, but prophylaxis treatment. As such, they call into question one of the major criteria for issuance of an EUA in that other treatments have been available and, now, some are even approved. Which, again, at least to my mind, is one of the incentives the FDA now seems to have for approving at least one of the vaccines to get it out from under the stigma/limitations of the EUA.

Is an individual better off with BOTH the vaccine and improved treatments? Who knows? But, that decision should be up to the individual, not the Government or their employer. Well... At least until a vaccine which acts as a true preventive is created and approved. Right now, none of those available under the EUA or even set for approval appear to offer that 'true preventive' standard, just a 'measure' of protection against severe illness.

[five.five-six]

Ill take the placebo.

[Wlee]

Waiting for Novavax. Better data on the method of delivery. Also more moderate side effects compared to the current offering.

[Sousuke]

Waiting for Novavax. Better data on the method of delivery. Also more moderate side effects compared to the current offering.

The Novavax vaccine sounds pretty cool, they use genetically modified moth cells.

[Libertarian777]

The Novavax vaccine sounds pretty cool, they use genetically modified moth cells.

Not sure if you're being facetious.

Yes Novavax uses modified insect cells.
No you do NOT get injected with those cells. They use the moth to replicate the spike protein. They take those spike proteins and cover those in lipids and inject that.

No ability to replicate or bind. Does not affect any of your cells.

Question is whether the spike protein is so specific that it only covers alpha, but current trials seem to show high protection against delta and the other variants too.

[BucDan]

Pfizer. mRNA is superior technology.

I took Pfizer +4 mos ago. Still a pro 2A straight white cisgender male. Still get erections. Still support Trump. Still support the recall of NewSCUM. Still buying guns. Still an NRA and CRPA member. Still waiting to die from the vaccine or suddenly become a Communist.

The guy that created MRNA came out against using mrna technology for vaccines as mrna tech is still not fully understood, recommended the traditional route for the time being while more studies on mrna were done. Aka mrna tech isn't ready for prime time.

[FlyingShooter]

The guy that created MRNA came out against using mrna technology for vaccines as mrna tech is still not fully understood, recommended the traditional route for the time being while more studies on mrna were done. Aka mrna tech isn't ready for prime time.

[Tere_Hanges]

Everyone keeps saying he created mrna, but it seems the more appropriate wording is he contributed to mrna tech.

Been doing some more reading on the guy, etc. and from an outsider looking in, he seems more butthurt about not getting more recognition in the industry, thus he decides to bash it instead. I’m not saying I discount everything he says, but at the same time…he comes across kinda of like a butthurt kid.

Yup.

Saying someone "invented" or "created" mRNA is like saying they invented gravity or H2O or DNA, or RNA or anything that occurs naturally. It just makes whomever says that, look really stupid.

[stix213]

If you enter a vaccine trial instead of getting one of the big 3, you at least get a 50/50 chance of getting the placebo.

[meno377]

I'm considering Novavax when available.

[stix213]

I'm considering Novavax when available.

In a normal world I might agree, but the behavior of the FDA since the start of this has me assuming if/when it becomes available it won't be because it is a good idea to take it. In fact, if it is prevented from being distributed I might even consider that evidence it is safer and more effective than the current crop.