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  • #16
    elSquid
    In Memoriam
    • Aug 2007
    • 11844

    I saw a bit today:

    A combination of high vaccination rates and renewed masking appears to have significantly slowed growth of the Provincetown cluster just as that cluster was making national news.



    That is precisely what appears to be happening in Provincetown, which as a gay mecca


    So perhaps the outbreak is, uh, not representative of the general population at large.

    -- Michael

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    • #17
      JamesH
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2011
      • 1257

      Can anyone find a link to the CDC study? I didn't see it in the OP's link. Only circular links to other CNBC articles. Thanks, in advance.

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      • #18
        SPUTTER
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2009
        • 7504

        Originally posted by elSquid
        I saw a bit today:

        A combination of high vaccination rates and renewed masking appears to have significantly slowed growth of the Provincetown cluster just as that cluster was making national news.



        That is precisely what appears to be happening in Provincetown, which as a gay mecca


        So perhaps the outbreak is, uh, not representative of the general population at large.

        -- Michael
        That's called damage control. Let's see how things go this winter, if we go into total lockdown and we see real bodies being stacked up, well then you know it's the shots. I hope I'm wrong though, I really don't want to see that.

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        • #19
          arrix
          Veteran Member
          • May 2012
          • 3846

          You'll couldn't be more wrong, but I'll leave you to your fantasies.
          There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

          -Walt Whitman

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          • #20
            NorcalGSG
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1305

            Technically, they prepare your body to recognize and fight off the disease before your symptoms get out of hand. So it's not like you have a plastic barrier around you, but your system can then recognize polio or covid-19 and kill it before you end up in an iron lung or ventilator.
            But it seems most here don't want to recognize that there is a huge difference between testing positive and having mild Covid symptoms, versus being hospitalized with it. And since like 98% or so of the current hospitalizations are for non-vaccinated people, it's pretty clear that the vaccines are working as intended, to minimize the severity of symptoms and relieve the medical system from being overwhelmed from those that are scared of a shot.

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            • #21
              sigfan91
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2009
              • 10406

              Originally posted by NorcalGSG
              Technically, they prepare your body to recognize and fight off the disease before your symptoms get out of hand. So it's not like you have a plastic barrier around you, but your system can then recognize polio or covid-19 and kill it before you end up in an iron lung or ventilator.
              But it seems most here don't want to recognize that there is a huge difference between testing positive and having mild Covid symptoms, versus being hospitalized with it.
              Oh, we know the difference. We're just using the MSM's tactics against them. All they did for the last 18 months was to report the number of infected. Not only that, they report cumulative numbers and daily infected numbers. They rarely talked about serious and critical numbers. They tell us the number of dead, but those are just "dead with the virus" rather than "dead from the virus." And I have never, ever, heard the current infected number. How about the number of recovered? I have never heard that either. I wonder why.

              Originally posted by NorcalGSG
              And since like 98% or so of the current hospitalizations are for non-vaccinated people, it's pretty clear that the vaccines are working as intended, to minimize the severity of symptoms and relieve the medical system from being overwhelmed from those that are scared of a shot.
              Yeah, but we question the necessity of the vaccine because like 99% of all infected survive, vast majority without any long lasting effects.

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              • #22
                seal20
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 3081

                This is what they call a good ol "backfire"

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                • #23
                  LBDamned
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 19040

                  Originally posted by kalibeltfeeder
                  4 people hospitalized? Yawn
                  At some point it was only 2...

                  That's a 100% increase
                  "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                  • #24
                    SPUTTER
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7504

                    Originally posted by NorcalGSG
                    Technically, they prepare your body to recognize and fight off the disease before your symptoms get out of hand. So it's not like you have a plastic barrier around you, but your system can then recognize polio or covid-19 and kill it before you end up in an iron lung or ventilator.
                    But it seems most here don't want to recognize that there is a huge difference between testing positive and having mild Covid symptoms, versus being hospitalized with it. And since like 98% or so of the current hospitalizations are for non-vaccinated people, it's pretty clear that the vaccines are working as intended, to minimize the severity of symptoms and relieve the medical system from being overwhelmed from those that are scared of a shot.
                    This just isn't the way our immune system works. Have you ever caught a cold and passed it along to someone in your family? After you recover, and they are still sick, do you get sick again or feel any symptoms? No you don't, you could drink out of the same cup and you won't get sick again. Ever been around people who have a cold and you don't get any symptoms? This is because our immune system after it encounters a virus (for example) remembers the virus and kills it before you develop symptoms.
                    If this was a true vaccine, a person encountering COVID would not get any symptoms at all. You can claim, "well it's a variant", but the reality is variants cannot escape immunity because they aren't that much different as to fool the immune system.
                    What this is beginning to look like is that these shots are compromising the immune system, as a person in July, normally shouldn't be getting sick at all.
                    Our immune system is in a 24/7, 365 day a year, lifetime battle against viruses, bacteria, abnormal cell growths, etc. I find it incredibly hilarious to see people wearing masks, gloves or face shields and see them lining up at a fast food drive thru to eat food that likely has hair, salivia, mucus, etc from the workers that prepare it, yet they are totally afraid of COVID.

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                    • #25
                      unclejesse
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 844

                      Originally posted by SPUTTER
                      This just isn't the way our immune system works. Have you ever caught a cold and passed it along to someone in your family? After you recover, and they are still sick, do you get sick again or feel any symptoms? No you don't, you could drink out of the same cup and you won't get sick again. Ever been around people who have a cold and you don't get any symptoms? This is because our immune system after it encounters a virus (for example) remembers the virus and kills it before you develop symptoms.
                      If this was a true vaccine, a person encountering COVID would not get any symptoms at all. You can claim, "well it's a variant", but the reality is variants cannot escape immunity because they aren't that much different as to fool the immune system.
                      What this is beginning to look like is that these shots are compromising the immune system, as a person in July, normally shouldn't be getting sick at all.
                      Our immune system is in a 24/7, 365 day a year, lifetime battle against viruses, bacteria, abnormal cell growths, etc. I find it incredibly hilarious to see people wearing masks, gloves or face shields and see them lining up at a fast food drive thru to eat food that likely has hair, salivia, mucus, etc from the workers that prepare it, yet they are totally afraid of COVID.
                      #facts 👍👍

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                      • #26
                        sigfan91
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 10406

                        Originally posted by SPUTTER
                        This just isn't the way our immune system works. Have you ever caught a cold and passed it along to someone in your family? After you recover, and they are still sick, do you get sick again or feel any symptoms? No you don't, you could drink out of the same cup and you won't get sick again. Ever been around people who have a cold and you don't get any symptoms? This is because our immune system after it encounters a virus (for example) remembers the virus and kills it before you develop symptoms.
                        If this was a true vaccine, a person encountering COVID would not get any symptoms at all. You can claim, "well it's a variant", but the reality is variants cannot escape immunity because they aren't that much different as to fool the immune system.
                        What this is beginning to look like is that these shots are compromising the immune system, as a person in July, normally shouldn't be getting sick at all.
                        Our immune system is in a 24/7, 365 day a year, lifetime battle against viruses, bacteria, abnormal cell growths, etc. I find it incredibly hilarious to see people wearing masks, gloves or face shields and see them lining up at a fast food drive thru to eat food that likely has hair, salivia, mucus, etc from the workers that prepare it, yet they are totally afraid of COVID.
                        I find it funny that people wear masks when they go to a restaurant, but take them off after they sit down at a table. It's as if the table/booth has a magic force field that keeps out the wuhan virus.

                        I saw a picture of a sign somewhere that asked people to wear masks when they enter the restaurant, but OK to take off once seated.....

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                        • #27
                          Hammertime
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 3495

                          Originally posted by Bert Gamble
                          You know vaccines are why I didn’t get those viruses. Real Vaccines do prevent infection.
                          Just wondering out loud since no one I’ve met, who has made that argument, off the top of their head can verify if those vaccines were created under emergency powers, in less than a year, with no FDA or equivalent review.

                          Can you?

                          Off the top of your head.

                          Also, how have we not closed the border on all of the “Unvaccinated Trump supporters” (since that’s the narrative) down in Mexico? I think only 20% of their citizens are actually fully vaccinated.

                          No contact tracing, no forced injections, a free ticket anywhere they want in the US with amnesty yet to come.
                          Last edited by Hammertime; 07-31-2021, 2:06 AM.

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                          • #28
                            LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            The entire subject has been nonsensical from the beginning.

                            I lost faith in most of society when (almost) everyone immediately went full freakout - even on this forum.

                            By the time the majority figured out what was going on- it was way too late... damage was done.

                            Now we just talk in circles rehashing chit that really doesn't matter at this point.

                            If everyone with today's opinion felt the same way 14 months ago, we'd never be where we ended up.

                            I learned a lot in the past 1.5 years.
                            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                            • #29
                              Hammertime
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 3495

                              It’s been rough in my industry, you just get beat up by people that take their masks off to whisper that Trump is a Nazi.

                              I hate this ****.

                              The “Fight hate with LOVE” crowd has been none of that.

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                              • #30
                                SPUTTER
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 7504

                                What industry are you in? It's the exact opposite in the line of work I'm in.

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