If this article doesn't raise red flags, it should

[DaveInOroValley]

Not much I can say other than good luck with forcing this on anyone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/days-vaccine-lotteries-waning-come-100041082.html

[MJB]

F them

[stix213]

I'm amused that we're watching every prediction made by the vaccine immune escape "conspiracy theorists" from nearly a year ago play out in real time, including that the unvaccinated would take the blame. Yet we're all supposed to pretend the vaccines are the way forward, instead of what they really are.

[CAL.BAR]

I'm amused that we're watching every prediction made by the vaccine immune escape "conspiracy theorists" from nearly a year ago play out in real time, including that the unvaccinated would take the blame. Yet we're all supposed to pretend the vaccines are the way forward, instead of what they really are.

And yet 99% of all hospitalizations and deaths are all from UNVACCINATED people? How do you account for that? Let me guess, another even more retarded conspiracy theory.

[stix213]

And yet 99% of all hospitalizations and deaths are all from UNVACCINATED people? How do you account for that? Let me guess, another even more retarded conspiracy theory.

You're repeating lies. Countries which are actually reporting those stats for vaccinated vs unvaccinated are now seeing the vaccinated are the majority who are dying.

Article titled "Why most people who now die with Covid in England have had a vaccination"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/why-most-people-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated

[DaveInOroValley]

You're repeating lies. Countries which are actually reporting those stats for vaccinated vs unvaccinated are now seeing the vaccinated are the majority who are dying.

Article titled "Why most people who now die with Covid in England have had a vaccination"
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/jun/27/why-most-people-who-now-die-with-covid-have-been-vaccinated[/url

And I did see a recent LA county stat that 20% of all new cases had been vaccinated. Also I didn't really mean for this to turn into vaccine debate of yes get or no you're crazy to get it, it was more of a look what the government may plan to do and over reach type of issues. But be that as it may. We do already have plenty of threads of the pros and cons but the topic being what it is seems inevitable.

[Scota4570]

To repeat for the infinite time, "cases" is a bu!!$h!t metric. Cases include mostly people who are not sick with covid.

Deaths continue to fall.

Hospitalizations are up. They are up from insignificant to slightly less insignificant. The hospitalization bar has been lowered.

Those who are sick enough to go the the hospital are obese and sickly with other problems, mostly diabetic and/or lung issues. Those people are foolish not to get vaxxed. The cost benefit analysis indicates they should.


Attempting to force people to get vaxxed is a very bad idea. It is a personal decision. Those who are concerned about covid should get vaxxed and shut their mouth. IF they are right they are safe. What somebody else does is none of their business.

I fear that forcing the vaccine on people will result in violence. It seems to me that some of the "force vaccine" puppet masters could be deliberately fomenting violence from the mostly conservative no vaxx group. That would be an excuse to grab even more power and control.

[The Gleam]

Sounds like a theme here....

Blame law-abiding gun owners and gun manufacturers for the erroneously termed "gun violence" epidemic.

Blame tax-paying US citizens for significant increase in illegal aliens and human trafficking.

Blame those who do not want to legalize drugs for the increase in drug cartel wars, fentanyl/meth trafficking, and huge, crime inviting illegal marijuana grows right under our nose in places as far inland as Los Angeles County - all as politicians seek to minimize penalties for drug related use and drug dealers.

Blame hard-working honest citizens of society for the increase in crime (rather than garbage politicians like Gascon and Prop 47).

Blame the United States for dictatorial oppression, economic and societal failure, and human-rights violations in Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea.

Blame the incredibly minimal volume of purchase and short term use of aftermarket car racing parts for "climate change".

The FACTS themselves from the actual authorized/unbiased sources, not the fabricated statistics designed to support an agenda, do NOT show that only unvaccinated are coming down with new cases or the Delta variant.

You can be unvaccinated, have done everything responsible to have not gotten COVID - you're NOT an "anti-vaxxer" (you just trust the SCIENCE that leads you to NOT trust THESE mRNA vaccines) - and to this day, you never have gotten COVID in the last 18 months, still don't have it, and yet you are to blame for the surge!

(Just like being a law-abiding gun owner that has never committed a crime, let alone a crime using a gun, yet you -or the gun - are deemed responsible for crimes committed with guns and the actions of active-shooters. )

It is shocking how most of the leading media have stitched their reporting to the point of propaganda solely to back this current administration, no matter what nonsensical conclusions it cooks up.

[Scota4570]

Excellent associations and parallels.

At this point the bar has been raised to the level of curing the common cold before our stolen freedom is restored. News flash, they will never give back what was stolen. It never works that way.

[BakoJ]

And yet 99% of all hospitalizations and deaths are all from UNVACCINATED people? How do you account for that? Let me guess, another even more retarded conspiracy theory.

Source? Or are you just spouting figures out of your *** like usual?

[stix213]

Source? Or are you just spouting figures out of your *** like usual?

It is a quote from Fauci, who has yet to release any data to support the claim.

[theLBC]

this vaccine is turning into azt all over again.

[golfish]

Wife works at Arrowhead Hospital, she said they had 6 covid patients last week, they have 17 as of yesterday. Not sure of the vaccine status. She would probably say that non had the vaccine but it would be a guess. I'll ask her when she gets home.

[Scota4570]

Per the California Covid dashboard there is not a shortage of hospital space or ICU beds, actually just the opposite.

Page down on the link.

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

[The Gleam]

Per the California Covid dashboard there is not a shortage of hospital space or ICU beds, actually just the opposite.

Page down on the link.

Maybe they were referring to California hospitals located on the Mexican border.