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  • SPUTTER
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 7504

    Originally posted by theLBC
    the mechanism for resistance (only the survivors replicate, so you get a stronger generation) doesn't fit how vaccines work, but if the vax is truly creating trillions of spike proteins, and your body is full of these spike proteins even months after getting the #clotshot, then i can see how your immune system may be overwhelmed trying to fight spike proteins and perhaps that is allowing infection from the actual variants.

    Whoa!? 5 months after injection? RIP. Now does anyone know if the spike proteins themselves are just circulating throughout the body, or are they attached to the cells that expressed them?

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    • five.five-six
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2006
      • 34835

      Originally posted by gimebakmybulits
      Even Joey BagOdicks Biden could have stuttered out a better comeback....but I guess that's why you voted for him.

      You seem to have struck a nerve with that one LOLOLOL

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      • theLBC
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2017
        • 6661

        Originally posted by SPUTTER
        Whoa!? 5 months after injection? RIP. Now does anyone know if the spike proteins themselves are just circulating throughout the body, or are they attached to the cells that expressed them?
        according to a canadian doctor, they attach to cell walls, and could be what is causing micro-clotting because your body sees these as a damaged cell.

        Documents Prove Fauci Knew in 2012 That Vaccines Targeting the Spike Protein Were a Slow Death Sentence

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        • bigbossman
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2012
          • 11067

          Originally posted by five.five-six
          You seem to have struck a nerve with that one LOLOLOL
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          • Epaphroditus
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4888

            Who says the vaxxed who get infected are not supporting just as much virus as unvaxxed?

            Mutations is a numbers game and selective pressure. The vaxxer have more selective pressure so even if they have lower viral load they can still churn out significant numbers of mutations.
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            • madjack956
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 2617

              I'm unvaxxed and I have not given it to anyone so how can I be a driver?
              Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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              • LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Originally posted by madjack956
                I'm unvaxxed and I have not given it to anyone so how can I be a driver?
                You, me and millions upon millions of others.
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                • bigbossman
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 11067

                  Originally posted by madjack956
                  I'm unvaxxed and I have not given it to anyone so how can I be a driver?
                  How do you know for sure? Maybe you've killed a boatload of children and grannies, and are blissfully unaware.
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                  • jbj
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 781

                    Originally posted by Epaphroditus
                    Who says the vaxxed who get infected are not supporting just as much virus as unvaxxed?

                    Mutations is a numbers game and selective pressure. The vaxxer have more selective pressure so even if they have lower viral load they can still churn out significant numbers of mutations.
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                    • gimebakmybulits
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 992

                      Sterilizing immunity provided by those vaccines
                      "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
                      George Washington

                      "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
                      Thomas Jefferson

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                      • Sousuke
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 3827

                        Originally posted by UCT
                        The thinking is, once it gets past your antibodies and infects the cell it is going to produce the same amount of copies and mutations as an unvaccinated person. Then when the cell bursts and all the original copies and mutated copies come out, in the vaccinated person only the mutated copies that evade antibodies will infect the next cell. When that cell bursts it will mainly have mutated virions that evade the antibodies produced by the vaccine. The process keeps repeating and repeating until the vaccine is almost worthless in stopping the process.

                        This is more likely to happen because the vaccines are directed only at a specific S protein (which is where most of the mutations occur), rather than including the N proteins, E proteins and M proteins as would be present in an old school vaccine.

                        It is also more likely to happen because the spike protein has been shown to shut down the NK cells, which are one of the first lines of defense, and the thinking is that those vaccinated with the spike protein will have their NK cells shut down too. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7563485/
                        - Do vaccinated produce as many virions as the unvaccinated when they become infected? (I'm not so sure - we know duration of infection is less which leads me to believe the number might be smaller)

                        - The fact that a percentage of the vaccinated do not get infected is a factor (looking at UK data, its still relatively low the amt. of vaccinated being infected in comparison to unvaccinated - I recognise that Israel is different, and I think I know why but a topic for another thread)

                        - What you have described above does not create or cause the actual mutation, you are describing how natural selection allows for the mutation to win out against pre-existing variants. I totally agree - where I live the Alpha variant is practically extinct partially because of vaccines and partially because it can not compete with the transmissibility of Delta. That being said, it starts with a copy error.
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                        • five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34835

                          Originally posted by madjack956
                          I'm unvaxxed and I have not given it to anyone so how can I be a driver?

                          You are an asymptotic carrier infecting people by the millions!!!!!

                          A 21st center Typhoid Mary

                          You should probably kill yourself!!!


                          Then again the jabberdoos are much more likely to be asymptotic carriers than the control group.


                          What should the jabberdoos do in penance for their sins of transmission?

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                          • LBDamned
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 19040

                            Originally posted by five.five-six
                            You are an asymptotic carrier infecting people by the millions!!!!!

                            A 21st center Typhoid Mary

                            You should probably kill yourself!!!


                            Then again the jabberdoos are much more likely to be asymptotic carriers than the control group.


                            What should the jabberdoos do in penance for their sins of transmission?
                            yeah, why re they so willing to put our lives in danger
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                            • five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34835

                              Originally posted by LBDamned
                              yeah, why re they so willing to put our lives in danger
                              Selfishness. The jabberdoos should be forced to wear masks, not the control group.



                              Considering that according to Herr Fauci, masks do nothing to protect you from getting sick, they do provide a modicum of protection from transmitting the disease.

                              Herr Fauci also says the jab doesn’t prevent you from catching the rona, it just reduces symptoms. The control group knows when they are sick and will mostly stay home but the jabberdoos have no way of knowing if they are sick or not.

                              Jaberdoos need to wear a mask, always. Even if they are alone in their own car driving down the freeway.


                              #fallowthescience

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                              • theLBC
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 6661

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