Third shot of Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine likely

[Dan_Eastvale]

Yawn.

Only people fretting about a 3rd shot are people that have had no shots. Weird.

The rational ones.. Who realize everything's been a gross OVERabundance of caution since March 2020.

[Tere_Hanges]

The rational ones.. Who realize everything's been a gross OVERabundance of caution since March 2020.

I agree there has been over reaction in many ways. But I ALSO believe getting vaccinated is a rational decision. I actually believe choosing not to be vaccinated can be rational as well. Both opposite decisions can be made rationally. Its just that most people are on one side or the other. And many people are deciding irrationally on both sides.

[joepamjohn]

That's the secret - Once you are dead, you can't get covid.

Yes, but you can still vote if you are a democrat.

[Dan_Eastvale]

I agree there has been over reaction in many ways. But I ALSO believe getting vaccinated is a rational decision.

If you get virus infections.
I don't get flu, ever, and don't get flu shots.
I am confident I'll never get COVID.

Don't want to be eventually shunned for not getting vaxed.
Don't want to be restricted for not getting vaxed.

[LBDamned]

Yes, but you can still vote if you are a democrat.

Multiple times if you were ultra demonic-rat

[SPUTTER]

I agree there has been over reaction in many ways. But I ALSO believe getting vaccinated is a rational decision. I actually believe chosing not to be vaccinated can be rational as well. Both opposite decisions can be made rationally. Its just that most people are on one side or the other. And many people are deciding irrationally on both sides.

It's irrational to consider taking an experimental, inadequately tested injection that utilizes a technology that's never been used in humans for a virus that a healthy person will survive 99.9% of the time. It's even more irrational to coerce or force people to take it. I have no problem with vaccines in general but prove that it's safe and effective first, and let people decide for themselves.

[Tere_Hanges]

It's irrational to consider taking an experimental, inadequately tested injection that utilizes a technology that's never been used in humans for a virus that a healthy person will survive 99.9% of the time. It's even more irrational to coerce or force people to take it. I have no problem with vaccines in general but prove that it's safe and effective first, and let people decide for themselves.

Thats where we differ. I believe both opposite decisions can be rationalized, you don't.

[Den60]

This report came out earlier this month, there have been other reports as long ago as two months back, that is OLD news.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

I'm guessing, you didn't bother to read the link you posted to. I mean, here's the title, Einstein:

Pfizer and Moderna Vaccines Likely to Produce Lasting Immunity, Study Finds

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The vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna set off a persistent immune reaction in the body that may protect against the coronavirus for years, scientists reported on Monday.

[LBDamned]

Why does either side need to justify their decision to the other?

Make your decision and leave everyone else alone.

Of course, one side doesn't quite want to do that.

[SchooBaka]

"Just two weeks to flatten the curve." Dr. Antony Fauci......doubles down.....over a year ago.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifhjD-j5oqo

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Yup, clown world.

If I had gotten J&J I would not be rushing out to mix 'n match vaccines. It's probably fine but also probably into diminishing returns. This kind of thing is under study, and there's no immediate rush as far as I can tell.

Uh oh... Be careful there. We might have to put you in the corner with the NIAID Associate Director of Clinical Research...

...Dr. John Beigel, associate director for clinical research at the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID), told Reuters Monday that J&J recipients should wait for more data.

How dare you suggest that 'waiting' might be an option; particularly due to the lack of data? I mean really. We follow 'the science,' not Actual Science. Sheesh.

I mean, this is the same maverick who ran the trials on Remdesivir and showed a noticeable effect on time to recovery; i.e., from 15 down to 10 days. But, clearly, he's a 'geek' in that he was hung up on 'data' related to that as well...

...Instead, he advised considering the totality of the data and reaping the lessons from each trial, which offer important guidance for specific populations. Additionally, standard of care has improved over time which, on its own, is improving outcomes...

What I guess I'm getting at is that there's data out there and it's either not being followed up on as aggressively/effectively as it should or being largely 'ignored,' potentially, in favor of alternatives, or is being downplayed in deference to 'other data' from organizations like the WHO. So much for reaping the lessons from each trial and, instead, being selective.

[ibanezfoo]

Why does either side need to justify their decision to the other?

Make your decision and leave everyone else alone.

Of course, one side doesn't quite want to do that.

Thats the crux of it. All this talk of shunning half of society over a vax is strange. Its an obvious wedge.

[theduracellbigd]

Thats the crux of it. All this talk of shunning half of society over a vax is strange. Its an obvious wedge.

This forum has the majority of posts putting the vaccine choice and those that took it in question. Not only using debunked stats and Doctors often times but also speculating bad health or death to those of us who took it. I do not see many posts that push the vaccine and tell non vaxers that they are making a bad choice and predicting their demise. Just saying. I do not see the Shunning, kinda self shunned if they feel that way.

[Palmaris]

This forum has the majority of posts putting the vaccine choice and those that took it in question. Not only using debunked stats and Doctors often times but also speculating bad health or death to those of us who took it. I do not see many posts that push the vaccine and tell non vaxers that they are making a bad choice and predicting their demise. Just saying. I do not see the Shunning, kinda self shunned if they feel that way.

It is not put in question, it is statement-you did experimental vaccine trial-bad choice.

[stonefly-2]

This forum has the majority of posts putting the vaccine choice and those that took it in question. Not only using debunked stats and Doctors often times but also speculating bad health or death to those of us who took it. I do not see many posts that push the vaccine and tell non vaxers that they are making a bad choice and predicting their demise. Just saying. I do not see the Shunning, kinda self shunned if they feel that way.

This forum is also populated by folks that would be eager to celebrate a success of the "warp speed" program.

Your personal examination of the situation would consist of several factors I would think.

The 2 factors I think you have (or pretend to have) gotten wrong are whether or not our consideration is genuine and whether it's aimed at you.