Vaccine Fears and Trust

[theduracellbigd]

So I was hesitant on Vaccine and like others I got it because the old lady got it.
Moderna, and a I am a full month out of second shot and fine. Headache fatigue with first shot, and fatigue fever and a few chills on second for a couple days. I still honestly think most healthy individuals probably do not need. However people who think it is a conspiracy, or some unsafe thing need to ask themselves then why ever use any modern medicine or any surgeries. It comes to Trust in medicine. The people who work in this field of mRNA vaccines are unquestionably more intelligent than me and likely smarter than 99 percent of Cal Gunners . I trust also that all of them are NOT in a big experiment on society. So if you do not want it that is your freedom and good. However some on this forum seem very interested in finding fault or problems and create fear about the vaccine.

[turbolxstang]

Good for you

[diveRN]

Clearly, you should have thought about this some more. You wanted to be vaccinated, cool. You're now part of the test group.

"18 Reasons I won't get the vaccine."

1. Vaccine makers are immune from liability
2. The checkered past of vaccine companies
3. Ugly history of attempts to make coronavirus vaccines
4. The ‘data gaps’ submitted to FDA by vaccine makers
5. No access to raw data from trials
6. No long-term safety testing
7. No informed consent
8. Under-reporting of adverse reactions and deaths
9. The vaccines don’t stop transmission or infection
10. People are catching COVID after being fully vaccinated
11. Overall death rate from COVID
12. Bloated COVID death numbers
13. Fauci and others at NIAID own patents on the Moderna vaccine
14. Fauci is on the hot seat for illegal gain-of-function research
15. The virus continues to mutate
16. Censorship and the complete absence of scientific debate
17. World’s leading vaccinologist is sounding the alarm
18. I already had COVID (or not)

Read here.

30 years from now, I'll be watching late night TV and a commercial will come on: "If you took the Covid vaccine in 2021, you could be entitled to compensation."

[stonefly-2]

So I was hesitant on Vaccine and like others I got it because the old lady got it.
Moderna, and a I am a full month out of second shot and fine. Headache fatigue with first shot, and fatigue fever and a few chills on second for a couple days. I still honestly think most healthy individuals probably do not need. However people who think it is a conspiracy, or some unsafe thing need to ask themselves then why ever use any modern medicine or any surgeries. It comes to Trust in medicine. The people who work in this field of mRNA vaccines are unquestionably more intelligent than me and likely smarter than 99 percent of Cal Gunners . I trust also that all of them are NOT in a big experiment on society. So if you do not want it that is your freedom and good. However some on this forum seem very interested in finding fault or problems and create fear about the vaccine.

No one ever tried to coerce me into taking safe and tested medicines.

Quite the contrary,
there was a process known as informed consent involved.

If we need to ask our selves something it's

"just who is it that's about the business of creating fear"?

and to what end of course.

It's all well and good this principle of trusting your doctor but is it a principle that has outlived it's validity?

From what I've seen from many prominent figures involved in the various facets of immunology posted here it seems more analogous to "trust the government".

Our reaction is not that difficult to understand as you make out.

[Tango_Down]

In the case of a real pandemic you don't need to be bombarded with constant news about how dangerous it is and you don't have to bribe people to take the vaccine. Just saying.

[dogcatcher]

In the case of a real pandemic you don't need to be bombarded with constant news about how dangerous it is and you don't have to bribe people to take the vaccine. Just saying.

This!

[TTT]

Taking the vaccine serves the ends of Biden, Newsome, and the Democrats, and has practically no benefit for me. I won't do anything that helps the Left.

[LBDamned]

In the case of a real pandemic you don't need to be bombarded with constant news about how dangerous it is and you don't have to bribe people to take the vaccine. Just saying.

^^^ this.

Anyone that doesn't recognize the strangeness of it - is questionable.

[mshill]

In the case of a real pandemic you don't need to be bombarded with constant news about how dangerous it is and you don't have to bribe people to take the vaccine. Just saying.

Here, here! And let me add, apparently my bodies immune system is better than a temporary experimental cocktail.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4

[ACfixer]

However people who think it is a conspiracy, or some unsafe thing need to ask themselves then why ever use any modern medicine or any surgeries.

I guess because nobody tries to force an experimental heart surgery on people. People only consent to that kind of thing when the possible benefits clearly outweigh the risks.

"Let me install this experimental heart valve in you and you could live another 20 years, if we don't then you won't see tomorrow..."

vs.

"You better take this experimental vaccine we invented a couple months ago, otherwise you have a .003% chance of dying! C'mon man, I'll throw in a beer and a donut if you do it!"

[Manofmayhem]

Just show me data on the past 5 years of mRNA trials on humans. I've found about 20 years worth on ferrets, mice, and mink but not humans. If the human trials were better than the animal ones I'll consider it. Until then, I'll take my 99.97% chance of survival with COVID.

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[ibanezfoo]

So I was hesitant on Vaccine and like others I got it because the old lady got it.
Moderna, and a I am a full month out of second shot and fine. Headache fatigue with first shot, and fatigue fever and a few chills on second for a couple days. I still honestly think most healthy individuals probably do not need. However people who think it is a conspiracy, or some unsafe thing need to ask themselves then why ever use any modern medicine or any surgeries. It comes to Trust in medicine. The people who work in this field of mRNA vaccines are unquestionably more intelligent than me and likely smarter than 99 percent of Cal Gunners . I trust also that all of them are NOT in a big experiment on society. So if you do not want it that is your freedom and good. However some on this forum seem very interested in finding fault or problems and create fear about the vaccine.

[ibanezfoo]

No one ever tried to coerce me into taking safe and tested medicines.

Quite the contrary,
there was a process known as informed consent involved.

If we need to ask our selves something it's

"just who is it that's about the business of creating fear"?

and to what end of course.

It's all well and good this principle of trusting your doctor but is it a principle that has outlived it's validity?

From what I've seen from many prominent figures involved in the various facets of immunology posted here it seems more analogous to "trust the government".

Our reaction is not that difficult to understand as you make out.

Correct. Anything that involves bribery and coercion is immediately suspicious. Criminals use those tactics on people, not goodly men.

[Gundiver]

[bootstrap]

Any legit product that has Truth, honesty and integrity behind it will work diligently to improve it's effectiveness and safety.

OTOH, products produced by the DS commie, tyrant shytheads will impose social shaming and criminal penalties for those who do not accept it.