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  • theLBC
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2017
    • 6599

    The US has 1/6th of the Covid-19 deaths worldwide, but only 1/24th of population.

    do we have the worst healthcare in the world or are the numbers jacked up?

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    therealnickb
    King- Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2011
    • 8918

    Do other countries pay more for covid deaths?

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    • #3
      theLBC
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Oct 2017
      • 6599

      Originally posted by therealnickb
      Do other countries pay more for covid deaths?
      i am guessing, no.

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        theLBC
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Oct 2017
        • 6599

        3,544 deaths and 12,619 serious injuries reported between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 23, 2021 One of the world’s most prominent medical doctors with expertise in treating COVID-19 has gone on th…



        “A typical new drug at about five deaths, unexplained deaths, we get a black-box warning, your listeners would see it on TV, saying it may cause death,” McCullough said. “And then at about 50 deaths it’s pulled off the market.”


        The U.S. has a precedent for this. In 1976 during the Swine Flu pandemic the U.S. attempted to vaccinate 55 million Americans, but at that point the shot caused about 500 cases of paralysis and 25 deaths.


        “The program was killed, at 25 deaths,” McCullough said.


        Compare that type of response to the government’s reaction to much higher reported death numbers related to the Moderna and Pfizer shots and the contrast is alarming, McCullough said, especially when the shots have not even been granted full FDA approval and are only being allowed on the market under an Emergency Use Authorization.


        .....


        Previous studies, including one from Harvard University, estimate that only 1 to 10 percent of all vaccine-related deaths get reported to VAERS. So in all likelihood, there are more people dying than even gets reported, yet the FDA can’t come up with a single death related to the Moderna and Pfizer shots.


        “Reporting a death requires a healthcare worker to enter it into the system,” he said. And if the death does not occur within the normal 15-minute monitoring period they often go unreported. Most deaths occur within 72 hours of the shot. “They pile up on day one, two and three,” he said.


        As a matter of comparison: There are 20 to 30 deaths reported every year to VAERS related to the flu shot. That’s with 195 million receiving flu shots. Compare that to the COVID shot, which resulted in 2,602 reported deaths through 77 million vaccinations.

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          bigmike82
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          • Jan 2008
          • 3876

          OR ... get this ... the two most populous countries on the planet have avoided massive COVID deaths (well, until now, in India's case).

          China is a totalitarian government that was able to stop covid by literally welding people into their homes. India largely escaped major covid issues until last week. So despite us having a better than average death rate, we'd still be over-represented in the overall count.
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            SAN compnerd
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2009
            • 4725

            We def have a better healthcare system than most places in the world. Source: son was born in a German hospital with midwives. It was not a pleasant experience.

            IMHO this is an effort to cast our system as inferior by including non-covid deaths in the death toll. If you read the article from Commentary magazine about the WHO report on healthcare in 2000 you'd see how much of an effort there is to invent metrics for global healthcare measurement that have nothing to do with healthcare or quality of outcomes, but to cast any socialized system as superior.

            The political left that controls much of our government via unelected bureaucrats could not pass up the possibility of damaging our healthcare reputation since they want socialized or government run healthcare, and there's enough evidence that the methods of capturing deaths from this flu was changed or manipulated is enough for me to believe it's all part of the plan.

            Unless you think that the CDC's failure to do any meaningful testing for over a month at the start of the pandemic while other nations were testing hundreds of thousands is an indication that our private system is inferior.
            "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
            When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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              stonefly-2
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 4993

              Originally posted by bigmike82
              OR ... get this ... the two most populous countries on the planet have avoided massive COVID deaths (well, until now, in India's case).

              China is a totalitarian government that was able to stop covid by literally welding people into their homes. India largely escaped major covid issues until last week. So despite us having a better than average death rate, we'd still be over-represented in the overall count.


              Well if you have any valid data whatever about what has and what has not happened in China I would sure like to see citation on it.
              What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

              Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

              https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


              I was born under a wandrin star.

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              • #8
                waawaaweenie
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Apr 2008
                • 659

                who are the chicoms biggest competitors in the worlds economy?

                who has the biggest chop suey fluey numbers?

                still think it was an accident?

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                • #9
                  RobinGoodfellow
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 836

                  Dude ...

                  Originally posted by theLBC
                  do we have the worst healthcare in the world or are the numbers jacked up?

                  The US is ranked #17 in deaths per million population.

                  Poland, the UK, Italy, Belgium, and many other European countries all have worse numbers than the US.

                  Get a grip.

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                    bigmike82
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3876

                    Originally posted by stonefly-2
                    Well if you have any valid data whatever about what has and what has not happened in China I would sure like to see citation on it.
                    They had videos of it back when it first happened.
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                    • #11
                      Garand Hunter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 2772

                      587 K deaths ? Bull sh** ! Have at it Trolls.

                      Psalm 1

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                      • #12
                        Cincinnatus
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 702

                        Originally posted by bigmike82
                        OR ... get this ... the two most populous countries on the planet have avoided massive COVID deaths (well, until now, in India's case).

                        China is a totalitarian government that was able to stop covid by literally welding people into their homes. India largely escaped major covid issues until last week. So despite us having a better than average death rate, we'd still be over-represented in the overall count.
                        So, China's total lockdown of any free press able to go anywhere in the country to actually report real death rates had nothing to do with it. Ok.....

                        How do you know that it's not running rampant in China? You don't. It's going wild in South America & Africa, and probably throughout SE Asia (Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Burma, etc.,), we just don't know because of the lack of reporting. And we won't know for at least a few years. For all we know, the US has had a better handle on it than anyone else, with the exception of NZ, Taiwan, and a few other countries that locked down tighter than a drum immediately.
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                        • #13
                          Hateca
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 675

                          This assumes they all are telling the truth including the United States. These numbers mean nothing to me. They all lie.
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                          • #14
                            stonefly-2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 4993

                            Originally posted by Cincinnatus
                            So, China's total lockdown of any free press able to go anywhere in the country to actually report real death rates had nothing to do with it. Ok.....

                            How do you know that it's not running rampant in China? You don't. It's going wild in South America & Africa, and probably throughout SE Asia (Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Burma, etc.,), we just don't know because of the lack of reporting. And we won't know for at least a few years. For all we know, the US has had a better handle on it than anyone else, with the exception of NZ, Taiwan, and a few other countries that locked down tighter than a drum immediately.

                            There were several areas that had anomalous low incidence of infection early on.

                            Taiwan being the most glaring example but I recall my sense of humanity being pinged at the thought of how this would effect Africa and India due to their lack of medical resources.

                            But guess what.

                            What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                            Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                            https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                            I was born under a wandrin star.

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                              Whiterabbit
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                              • Oct 2010
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