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  • #16
    Scota4570
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1719

    "Apparently, there's a real concern that vaccinated people are a threat to unvaccinated people due to shedding spike proteins."

    Shedding spike proteins? Utter nonsense. It is like saying you can get bubonic plague by being exposed to a rodent hair. You get plague from the bacterium (Yersinia pestis). Rats carry the fleas that carry it the bacterium. Hair got nothing to do with it.

    And, nether does MRMA that coded for spike protein. Once the MRNA is used to trick your body into making some virus spike proteins is it used up. Or, so THEY say.

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    • #17
      SoCal326
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1098

      Originally posted by czakita
      Surprise surprise. Private schools are saying something completely different than the talking brain dead politicians.
      I think you mean a single non medical private school is saying something completely different then the medical community.

      We shouldn't be listening to private schools or politicians for medical advice unless it's inline with medical research.
      Last edited by SoCal326; 04-27-2021, 6:26 PM.

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      • #18
        stonefly-2
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4993

        Originally posted by Scota4570
        "Apparently, there's a real concern that vaccinated people are a threat to unvaccinated people due to shedding spike proteins."

        Shedding spike proteins? Utter nonsense. It is like saying you can get bubonic plague by being exposed to a rodent hair. You get plague from the bacterium (Yersinia pestis). Rats carry the fleas that carry it the bacterium. Hair got nothing to do with it.

        And, nether does MRMA that coded for spike protein. Once the MRNA is used to trick your body into making some virus spike proteins is it used up. Or, so THEY say.


        And if "THEY" are wrong as a number of microbiologists suggest so are you.

        Not all illness is bacterial infection so that analogy fails,

        The concern is whether the MRNA is able to turn on the production of spike proteins to a degree but moreso whether it will fail to turn off at the proper point or be a runaway train in that regard.

        Kind of a valid concern to be "utter nonsense" don't you think?
        What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

        Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

        https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


        I was born under a wandrin star.

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        • #19
          mrdd
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 2023

          All mRNAs are degraded by a cell over time. That is how the cell ribosomes (which are the protein factories) operate. The mRNA is a blueprint with a limited lifespan.

          Normally, the mRNA is transcribed from DNA within the nucleus of the cell. It then exits the nucleus and ends up being used by the cell to produce the protein which it encodes. The mRNA is later degraded, and if the cell needs to make more of the protein, new mRNA must be transcribed from the DNA.

          What the vaccine does is to smuggle an mRNA into the cell from the outside, and it is used as a blueprint to produce the fake spike proteins, which are then expelled from the cell. The mRNA is treated normally, and is degraded and recycled.

          The fake spike proteins are then processed by the immune cells, which probably make a good meal of them, and recycle the material. Even if the fake spike proteins were dangerous in some manner to the person who was vaccinated, it is unlikely that they would be dangerous to others from casual contact.

          This sounds a lot like the hysteria over AIDS back in the 1980s.

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          • #20
            michael0594
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 764

            Originally posted by SoCal326
            I think you mean a single non medical private school is saying something completely different then the medical community.

            We shouldn't be listening to private schools or politicians for medical advice unless it's inline with medical research.
            Like your beloved Dr. Fauci and Dr. Jill Biden?

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            • #21
              SoCal326
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1098

              Originally posted by michael0594
              Like your beloved Dr. Fauci and Dr. Jill Biden?
              It seems silly that I have to say it but yes, Fauci is an MD immunologist. He and his team of advisors and is in the best position to communicate information to the public. He isn't always going to be right because we don't know everything but fox News, random politicians or obsessed calgunners are the last people we should be listening to.

              The first lady is not an immunoloist so I'm not sure why you'd suggest we listen to her.

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              • #22
                stonefly-2
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 4993

                Originally posted by SoCal326
                It seems silly that I have to say it but yes, Fauci is an MD immunologist. He and his team of advisors and is in the best position to communicate information to the public. He isn't always going to be right because we don't know everything but fox News, random politicians or obsessed calgunners are the last people we should be listening to.

                The first lady is not an immunoloist so I'm not sure why you'd suggest we listen to her.

                Dr. fauci is a number of things,

                it's not his "ability" to communicate information that is in question but his integrity.
                What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                I was born under a wandrin star.

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                • #23
                  Scota4570
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1719

                  Originally posted by mrdd
                  All mRNAs are degraded by a cell over time. That is how the cell ribosomes (which are the protein factories) operate. The mRNA is a blueprint with a limited lifespan.

                  Normally, the mRNA is transcribed from DNA within the nucleus of the cell. It then exits the nucleus and ends up being used by the cell to produce the protein which it encodes. The mRNA is later degraded, and if the cell needs to make more of the protein, new mRNA must be transcribed from the DNA.

                  What the vaccine does is to smuggle an mRNA into the cell from the outside, and it is used as a blueprint to produce the fake spike proteins, which are then expelled from the cell. The mRNA is treated normally, and is degraded and recycled.

                  The fake spike proteins are then processed by the immune cells, which probably make a good meal of them, and recycle the material. Even if the fake spike proteins were dangerous in some manner to the person who was vaccinated, it is unlikely that they would be dangerous to others from casual contact.

                  This sounds a lot like the hysteria over AIDS back in the 1980s.
                  That is a great explanation of how it works. Thank you.

                  IF a person rejects the concept that viruses and bacteria cause disease, or that there is not such thing as the corona virus, I am at a loss to help.

                  Fauci lost credibility when he became a politician. He may be right but I no longer trust him.
                  Last edited by Scota4570; 04-28-2021, 11:17 AM.

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                  • #24
                    SPUTTER
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7504

                    The fact is nobody knows what's in these mRNA serums because the formulas are kept secret. Furthermore, nobody knows exactly how they are working. The manufacturers have an explanation but that requires trust on your part. Trust is not science. I'd like to see independent researchers perform studies. Even worse, nobody knows what the long term effects are on the human body.

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                    • #25
                      SoCal326
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1098

                      Originally posted by SPUTTER
                      The fact is nobody knows what's in these mRNA serums because the formulas are kept secret. Furthermore, nobody knows exactly how they are working. The manufacturers have an explanation but that requires trust on your part. Trust is not science. I'd like to see independent researchers perform studies. Even worse, nobody knows what the long term effects are on the human body.
                      Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it 'not science' and the sequences are known and we know how mRNA works. mRNA isn't a new thing.

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                      • #26
                        UCT
                        Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 410

                        There is evidence that the spike protein is responsible for the clotting disorder seen in patients who become infected or who receive the currently used vaccines. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1252960v1.full

                        So I would definitely not describe the spike protein made following vaccination as harmless. Whether people who are vaccinated shed the spike protein or not doesn't appear to be studied. So a bit of caution might be warranted.

                        Originally posted by mrdd
                        All mRNAs are degraded by a cell over time. That is how the cell ribosomes (which are the protein factories) operate. The mRNA is a blueprint with a limited lifespan.

                        Normally, the mRNA is transcribed from DNA within the nucleus of the cell. It then exits the nucleus and ends up being used by the cell to produce the protein which it encodes. The mRNA is later degraded, and if the cell needs to make more of the protein, new mRNA must be transcribed from the DNA.

                        What the vaccine does is to smuggle an mRNA into the cell from the outside, and it is used as a blueprint to produce the fake spike proteins, which are then expelled from the cell. The mRNA is treated normally, and is degraded and recycled.

                        The fake spike proteins are then processed by the immune cells, which probably make a good meal of them, and recycle the material. Even if the fake spike proteins were dangerous in some manner to the person who was vaccinated, it is unlikely that they would be dangerous to others from casual contact.

                        This sounds a lot like the hysteria over AIDS back in the 1980s.

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                        • #27
                          bigmike82
                          Bit Pusher
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3876

                          lolol. The founder is just nuts. Shedding spike proteins?

                          Leila Centner, CEO of Centner Academy, spoke Tuesday about her school's controversial new policy trying to keep teachers and staff from getting lifesaving COVID vaccinations.
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                          • #28
                            bigmike82
                            Bit Pusher
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3876

                            Originally posted by UCT
                            There is evidence that the spike protein is responsible for the clotting disorder seen in patients who become infected or who receive the currently used vaccines. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...1252960v1.full

                            So I would definitely not describe the spike protein made following vaccination as harmless. Whether people who are vaccinated shed the spike protein or not doesn't appear to be studied. So a bit of caution might be warranted.
                            It would appear the spike protein does cause clotting. However, the concentration of spike protein, due to the vaccine, is extremely small and mainly found in the muscle where you get injected. Some makes its way to the bloodstream, but again, it's a tiny, tiny amount.

                            Are irregular periods a side effect of COVID-19 vaccines? Can "vaccine shedding" impact unvaccinated people? Find out here.
                            -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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                            • #29
                              stonefly-2
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 4993

                              Originally posted by bigmike82
                              lolol. The founder is just nuts. Shedding spike proteins?

                              https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/04/2...es-experiment/

                              He's "just nuts",

                              shedding spike proteins yet when we go to your link his main point is that the "vaccine" is an experiment and we should be cautious till we know more.

                              oh, and lolol.
                              What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                              Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                              https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                              I was born under a wandrin star.

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                              • #30
                                stonefly-2
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 4993

                                Originally posted by bigmike82
                                It would appear the spike protein does cause clotting. However, the concentration of spike protein, due to the vaccine, is extremely small and mainly found in the muscle where you get injected. Some makes its way to the bloodstream, but again, it's a tiny, tiny amount.

                                Are irregular periods a side effect of COVID-19 vaccines? Can "vaccine shedding" impact unvaccinated people? Find out here.


                                Well we "should" be just fine then.
                                What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                                Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                                https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                                I was born under a wandrin star.

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