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UC, Cal State systems plan to require COVID-19 vaccination for all students this fall

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  • #16
    jarhead714
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2012
    • 8568

    Once again, where the F- is the ACLU?

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    • #17
      Dirtlaw
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2018
      • 3480

      Originally posted by jarhead714
      Once again, where the F- is the ACLU?

      Working to support Biden?

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      • #18
        Transient
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2020
        • 792

        This should not be mandated, unlike the other vaccinations children are already required to get. The reason being, COVID-19 vaccinations were only approved by the FDA on an emergency basis. Once that emergency basis has been removed and the vaccine is approved by the same manner all other vaccine are approved, then we (parents and schools) can talk about it being required for children of age to be required to get the vaccine. At this point, forced compliance will only result in wasted taxpayer money via lawsuits the schools, et al, will lose. It's the same basis as the military-forced anthrax vaccine lawsuits about 15-20 years ago. The government lost big back then, and you could see it now by how they didn't force any servicemembers to get the vaccine, but strongly encouraged and incentivized them. The schools could try the same thing, but the legal precedent for forced compliance has already been set against the schools.

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        Last edited by Transient; 04-23-2021, 11:25 AM.

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        • #19
          SAN compnerd
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 4725

          Originally posted by KHF1222
          If my college age son is to resume in-class instruction and will be mixing it up with other students in a high density environment
          that is characteristic of a public university campus, I support this one mandate for this one particular population group for this
          one time for this one unique Covid-19 circumstance. In my opinion, something has just got to give somewhere to get the educational
          environment stabilized to return to class.
          So you are in favor of mass vaccination of people under 50 who have a 99.97 percent chance of survival much like the flu they never get vaccinated for.

          I disagree. To bad the fear porn media has left so many oblivious to the science to make a sound decision.

          Why force a vaccination on people who are not really at risk?
          "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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          • #20
            SAN compnerd
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2009
            • 4725

            Originally posted by Notpc
            For now. As our big corps embrace communism expect them to act as a defacto arm of the government and refuse to do business with the unvaccinated. The commies have figured out how to skirt the constitution, don't make the government curtail free speech, make the social media platforms curtail free speech and pretend it's not because they are acting as a defacto arm of the government who has been pressuring them to curtail free speech. They'll use big corps for a similar purpose WRT vaccinations. Totalitarianism is totalitarianism regardless of if the government is the main cause or not.
            "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
            When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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            • #21
              SAN compnerd
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2009
              • 4725

              Originally posted by Dirtlaw
              Clearly there is a percentage of Calgunners unwilling to get the vaccine. Same thing is true across the land. Most Calgunners believe in the right to own a weapon. Many across the country feel the same way. But what if "government" tells us that's not so. "As good citizens we need to get our shots and give up our guns." All for the good of the country ... or so they say.


              I don't like where this is headed.
              If you can justify stripping one right for the good of the collective, you can justify stripping ANY right for the good of the collective.
              "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

              Originally posted by SAN compnerd
              When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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              • #22
                ACfixer
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2012
                • 6053

                Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                If you can justify stripping one right for the good of the collective, you can justify stripping ANY right for the good of the collective.
                This.
                Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                • #23
                  SPUTTER
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 7504

                  Yup. If you no longer have autonomy over your own body, where do you think your other rights stand? At that point, you are a slave.

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                  • #24
                    Scota4570
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1720

                    Somebody mentioned CSU...CSU Fresno? I got valley fever first semester, it was life threatening to me as 21 YO. Second semester I dodged the herpes bullet. Gotta keep things in perspective. Worry about alcohol poisoning, meningitis and the clap. Covid is a very low priority threat for a college student.

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                    • #25
                      darkshier
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 237

                      Vaccines are already required to attend public schools, don’t see the difference. Enroll in a private school if you don’t like it.

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                      • #26
                        Jwalt
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 551

                        You don't see a difference between experimental vaccines in phase 4 trials and vaccines that were properly tested over 7-10 years?

                        Really?

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                        • #27
                          LBDamned
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 19040

                          Originally posted by Jwalt
                          You don't see a difference between experimental vaccines in phase 4 trials and vaccines that were properly tested over 7-10 years?

                          Really?
                          Do you really have to ask?

                          Some are simply - gone...
                          "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                          • #28
                            Jwalt
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 551

                            Originally posted by LBDamned
                            Do you really have to ask?

                            Some are simply - gone...


                            Since when was it "If you don't like the way your taxes are used go to private school" instead of "If you don't like the way your taxes are used, fight to change it"?

                            Learned Helplessness.

                            It's even bigger than the way they try to conflate an experimental vaccine based on an entirely novel principle (no mRNA vaccine ever fully approved) with something like a polio vaccine that's been used for decades and is rooted in technology over 60 years old proven in many other vaccines as well.

                            They just behave like Subjects rather than Citizens.

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                            • #29
                              Sanderhawk
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1201

                              Can`t do it...its against my religion. That should do it.

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                              • #30
                                LBDamned
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 19040

                                Originally posted by Jwalt
                                Since when was it "If you don't like the way your taxes are used go to private school" instead of "If you don't like the way your taxes are used, fight to change it"?

                                Learned Helplessness.

                                It's even bigger than the way they try to conflate an experimental vaccine based on an entirely novel principle (no mRNA vaccine ever fully approved) with something like a polio vaccine that's been used for decades and is rooted in technology over 60 years old proven in many other vaccines as well.

                                They just behave like Subjects rather than Citizens.
                                They are too lazy to think/do otherwise.
                                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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