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  • Scota4570
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 1731

    Weekly total deaths



    Scroll down to the chart.

    From the chart you can see we are way below the normal deaths for this time of year. Because COVID was so bad for the over 65 crowd a large portion of the people who would be dying now are all ready dead.

    Before covid started we had two mild flu seasons. Many older folks who normally would have passed were hanging on. Covid came along a took them. Next year, if the data is honest, we will have mild flu year. (BTW, Covid is a flu)
  • #2
    ACfixer
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2012
    • 6095

    Mask up and comply plebe! Haven't you heard? You need two masks and three doses now.
    Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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    • #3
      elSquid
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2007
      • 11844

      Originally posted by Scota4570
      https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

      Scroll down to the chart.

      From the chart you can see we are way below the normal deaths for this time of year. Because COVID was so bad for the over 65 crowd a large portion of the people who would be dying now are all ready dead.
      Right under the graph:


      Number of deaths reported on this page are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death


      This mortality tracker highlights data points that are incomplete:

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      • #4
        Paul_R
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2011
        • 2847

        And virtually no flu deaths the entire season. Yeah pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....
        Fear is a social disease

        Got a jury summons? Know your rights! http://fija.org/

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        • #5
          Scota4570
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 1731

          Originally posted by elSquid
          Right under the graph:


          Number of deaths reported on this page are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death
          They always lag due to data entry lag on the most recent time. Thing is the total deaths from all causes is way below average and has been for a while. The time is long enough to eliminate the data lag for the most recent weeks. The point is to eliminate covid misinformation and look at all deaths. All deaths are very low. That means covid is not causing many deaths.

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          • #6
            elSquid
            In Memoriam
            • Aug 2007
            • 11844

            Originally posted by Scota4570
            They always lag due to data entry lag on the most recent time. Thing is the total deaths from all causes is way below average and has been for a while. The time is long enough to eliminate the data lag for the most recent weeks.
            You assert that, the folks behind the chart say otherwise.

            Simple way to resolve issue: capture current snapshot for a given week, check back in a month or two to see if the numbers for the week increase as more deaths are reported back to the CDC.

            march27excessdeaths.jpg

            I picked the week ending Mar 27, which doesn't seem too recent. If you feel that it is, you may wish to capture an earlier datapoint from the chart in this thread.

            Average expected deaths - 57,927
            Upper bound for excess - 59,632
            Predicted - 51,503
            Percent excess - 0

            So I guess that we will see...if somebody remembers to bump this thread in, say, the first part of June.

            : shrug :

            -- Michael

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            • #7
              elSquid
              In Memoriam
              • Aug 2007
              • 11844

              Originally posted by elSquid
              I picked the week ending Mar 27, which doesn't seem too recent. If you feel that it is, you may wish to capture an earlier datapoint from the chart in this thread.

              Average expected deaths - 57,927
              Upper bound for excess - 59,632
              Predicted - 51,503
              Percent excess - 0

              So I guess that we will see...if somebody remembers to bump this thread in, say, the first part of June.

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              • #8
                elSquid
                In Memoriam
                • Aug 2007
                • 11844

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                • #9
                  therealnickb
                  King- Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 8957

                  Adjust for an aging population. Check it after a couple years.

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                  • #10
                    stonefly-2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 4993

                    Originally posted by Scota4570
                    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm

                    Scroll down to the chart.

                    From the chart you can see we are way below the normal deaths for this time of year. Because COVID was so bad for the over 65 crowd a large portion of the people who would be dying now are all ready dead.

                    Before covid started we had two mild flu seasons. Many older folks who normally would have passed were hanging on. Covid came along a took them. Next year, if the data is honest, we will have mild flu year. (BTW, Covid is a flu)



                    Interesting that you draw that conclusion.

                    I feel cheated in my prediction from so many months ago that our hyper attention to germs and communicable disease would have just this result.
                    What do you call the people that abandoned the agenda of John Kennedy and adopted the agenda of Lee Oswald?

                    Pronouns: "Dude" and "Playa".

                    https://billstclair.com/Unintended-Consequences.pdf


                    I was born under a wandrin star.

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                    • #11
                      Scota4570
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 1731



                      Cases and deaths continue to drop after plummeting January to April. We are now under 500 deaths per week and have been for a month. That is less than 25K death per year. That is a very low by traditional flu standards.

                      There was a CDC chart that described what pandemic level is. It seems to be gone now. It was like the one linked above but they changed it months ago to delete the epidemic threshold.

                      We'll probably have a blip in the next two weeks and it will continue to ratchet down. We'll see.

                      The take away is that we have reached herd immunity. The majority of those who were in danger are vaxed or dead. Many people got it and are now immune. At this point the masks and pushing the jab on my children is insanity.

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