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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 9077

    If You Were Recently Infected, You Might Want To Wait A Bit On Vaccination

    Let's be clear, up front... I'm not saying "don't get the vaccine" if you've already had COVID. What I'm saying is, if you've had COVID and if you choose to get one of the vaccines, you may wish to consider putting some 'space' between the infection and the vaccine. There have been 'rumblings' that the vaccines have the potential to be detrimental to some of those who were 'recently' infected with COVID; i.e., more detrimental than An Adverse Side Effect? Strong Reaction to First Dose May Signal Previous Infection. Here is an example...

    Scientist to FDA: You Are Ignoring ‘Clear and Present Danger’ Associated With COVID Vaccine

    ...As an immunologist, I know that these vaccines are some of the most powerful and effective we’ve ever made. I know them, I understand them and I know that we need them to achieve herd immunity.

    But, as I’ve told you before, we are deploying this defensive weapon wildly indiscriminately in the midst of a pandemic outbreak, while many are “the recently infected.” It is my professional opinion as an immunologist and physician that this indiscriminate vaccination is a clear and present danger to a subset of the already infected.

    I know fully well that it is highly likely that many more lives will be saved from these vaccines than harmed by them in this pandemic. But THAT is no justification for relinquishing your duty as a chief public health officer in the U.S. to guard and defend the safety of this minority subset in harm’s way from indiscriminate vaccination...
    Here is 'the story' as attached to that e-mail...



    I can't find anything 'official' which goes directly into any depth with regard to 'recent infection' and 'vaccination;' though I haven't looked that hard either. However, there might be an hint in what the CDC says here...

    If I have already had COVID-19 and recovered, do I still need to get vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine?

    Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19. Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible—although rare—that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. Learn more about why getting vaccinated is a safer way to build protection than getting infected.

    If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you should wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Talk to your doctor if you are unsure what treatments you received or if you have more questions about getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

    Experts are still learning more about how long vaccines protect against COVID-19 in real-world conditions. CDC will keep the public informed as new evidence becomes available.
    A more 'complete' explanation can be found from the CDC here...

    ...COVID-19 vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 infection

    People with prior or current SARS-CoV-2 infection


    Data from clinical trials indicate that the currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines can be given safely to people with evidence of a prior SARS-CoV-2 infection. People should be offered vaccination regardless of history of prior symptomatic or asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. Viral testing to assess for acute SARS-CoV-2 infection or serologic testing to assess for prior infection is not recommended for the purposes of vaccine decision-making.

    Vaccination of people with known current SARS-CoV-2 infection should be deferred until the person has recovered from the acute illness (if the person had symptoms) and they have met criteria to discontinue isolation. This recommendation applies to people who experience SARS-CoV-2 infection before receiving any vaccine dose and those who experience SARS-CoV-2 infection after the first dose of an mRNA vaccine but before receipt of the second dose.

    While there is no recommended minimum interval between infection and vaccination, current evidence suggests that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 reinfection is low in the months after initial infection but may increase with time due to waning immunity. Thus, while vaccine supply remains limited, people with recent documented acute SARS-CoV-2 infection may choose to temporarily delay vaccination, if desired, recognizing that the risk of reinfection and, therefore, the need for vaccination, might increase with time following initial infection.

    People who previously received passive antibody therapy

    Currently, there are no data on the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines in people who received monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma as part of COVID-19 treatment. Based on the estimated half-life of such therapies and evidence suggesting that reinfection is uncommon in the 90 days after initial infection, vaccination should be deferred for at least 90 days. This is a precautionary measure until additional information becomes available, to avoid potential interference of the antibody therapy with vaccine-induced immune responses. This recommendation applies to people who receive passive antibody therapy before receiving any vaccine dose and to those who receive passive antibody therapy after the first dose of an mRNA vaccine but before the second dose, in which case the second dose should be deferred for at least 90 days following receipt of the antibody therapy. Receipt of passive antibody therapy in the past 90 days is not a contraindication to receipt of COVID-19 vaccine. COVID-19 vaccine doses received within 90 days after receipt of passive antibody therapy do not need to be repeated.

    For people receiving antibody therapies not specific to COVID-19 treatment (e.g., intravenous immunoglobulin, RhoGAM), administration of COVID-19 vaccines either simultaneously with or at any interval before or after receipt of an antibody-containing product is unlikely to substantially impair development of a protective antibody response. Thus, there is no recommended minimum interval between antibody therapies not specific to COVID-19 treatment and COVID-19 vaccination...

    Vaccinating people with a known COVID-19 exposure or during COVID-19 outbreaks

    COVID-19 vaccines are not currently recommended for outbreak management or for post-exposure prophylaxis to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection in a person with a known exposure. Because the median incubation period of COVID-19 is 4–5 days, it is unlikely that a dose of COVID-19 vaccine would provide an adequate immune response within the incubation period for effective post-exposure prophylaxis.

    People in the community or in outpatient settings who have had a known COVID-19 exposure should not seek vaccination until their quarantine period has ended to avoid potentially exposing healthcare personnel and others during the vaccination visit. This recommendation also applies to people with a known COVID-19 exposure before receipt of the second mRNA vaccine dose.

    Residents or patients with a known COVID-19 exposure in congregate healthcare settings (e.g., long-term care facilities) or congregate non-healthcare settings (e.g., correctional and detention facilities, homeless shelters) may be vaccinated. In these settings, exposure to and transmission of SARS-CoV-2 can occur repeatedly for long periods of time, and healthcare personnel and other staff are already in close contact with residents. People residing in congregate settings (healthcare and non-healthcare) who have had an exposure and are awaiting SARS-CoV-2 testing results may be vaccinated if they do not have symptoms consistent with COVID-19. Vaccinators should employ appropriate infection prevention and control procedures...
    Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 03-29-2021, 2:21 PM.
  • #2
    Sousuke
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 3805

    Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
    Let's be clear, up front... I'm not saying "don't get the vaccine" if you've already had COVID. What I'm saying is, if you've had COVID and if you choose to get one of the vaccines, you may wish to consider putting some 'space' between the infection and the vaccine. There have been 'rumblings' that the vaccines have the potential to be detrimental to some of those who were 'recently' infected with COVID; i.e., more detrimental than An Adverse Side Effect? Strong Reaction to First Dose May Signal Previous Infection. Here is an example...





    Here is 'the story' as attached to that e-mail...



    I can't find anything 'official' which goes directly into any depth with regard to 'recent infection' and 'vaccination;' though I haven't looked that hard either. However, there might be an hint in what the CDC says here...



    A more 'complete' explanation can be found from the CDC here...
    The primary thing I am keying in on is the statement 'family history with vaccines'...sounds like there is a history of allergic reactions of some kind.
    Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

    The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
    The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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      SAN compnerd
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4725

      But I was just in a long haulers subreddit where they spoke of improvements in their condition after getting the vaccine. Clearly this is all disinformation.
      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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