Okay. So, you don't demand that people see things your way, but if they would just see things your way, no damage would have been done and they wouldn't be deemed 'asinine.' Got it.
Not 'everyone' has waited a year; but, what do you propose for people to have done differently that would have made a significant difference?
Restaurants ignore Government edicts and simply remain open? Some tried and got shut down.
Manufacturers ignore Government, propose they produce PPE while still producing their primary product to keep money coming in the door, allowing them to produce both? Some tried and got shut down.
Bars ignore Government and remain open? Some tried and lost their license.
The list goes on.
Remove the politicians who enforced the mandates? First, the politicians aren't the enforcement arm of the Government. Second, how long would it take; at least as long as a year? Third, not everyone agrees or sees things the way you do, I do, or the way others do.
It's not a matter of being in 'lock step' so much as not knowing what the alternative is or whether there is/was an effective alternative. Simply saying that the virus doesn't exist, isn't harmful, etc. is patently as unrealistic as what the Left has done with their nefarious use of lock downs, mandates, etc. to 'control' the virus. Simply 'writing off' the casualties as...
... isn't going to win friends and influence people who've lost people, ostensibly due to the virus.
Personally, I think a whole different approach should have been pursued as early as May last year, when Newsom was touting 70% of California's economy being open and claiming credit for it. It provided an hint that lock downs weren't THE answer and that people could be 'reasonable' in their approach; despite the media focus on those simply flouting 'reasonable' at that point. It was also when it should have been abundantly clear that the Left was using COVID as a 'fig leaf' for their power grab. As I noted in that thread, there was push back, even then and even by some in Hollywood...
The reason? It was at that point that the goal posts began noticeably moving and Government claims were becoming... uh... questionable, even to the masses. Yet, here we still sit.
There has been no 'lock step' acceptance by the masses in an obsequious bowing to Government power. There have been many individuals who expressed concern, disagreement, et al. Yet, there has still been no 'universally' proposed, let alone, accepted alternative which could be shoved through... until recently.
It's exactly why Biden is now being seen as out-of-touch, even by some on the Left, in that he (or, more likely, his people) want to go back to the same things we did a year ago, using the same arguments, when the knowledge regarding and our ability to combat the virus has changed dramatically in that same year.
Just like last night, Laura Ingraham had a doctor on who is 'extremely frustrated' that a specific medicine is not being 'authorized' for use against COVID. When she asked him how it was different than Hydroxycholoriquine, his response was that HCQ, when it was being touted, didn't have a track record against COVID that public health officials would accept as valid. This one does and is, according to him, demonstrated as "100% without side effects;" i.e., it was an alternative to vaccines in that, given as a preventive or very early...
Sound familiar? I don't remember the name of the medication, but the gist of it was that doctors aren't prevented from prescribing it. (At least not yet.) It was simply not approved for use against COVID and the doctor was, evidently, attempting to get the word out. Yet... I just looked and couldn't immediately find the interview, let alone the information, via Google/YouTube. Is that "lock step thinking" on the part of the People in simply accepting Government's edicts or is it a case of not being made aware of alternatives to those edicts so as to enable individuals to make an informed decision over which choice to make?
Again, as I said earlier, I don't think anyone is 'blaming everything around us' in a futile exercise of complain, but do nothing except 'stupidly' or 'meekly' or 'obsequiously' comply. I think what's happening is that people are observing and demonstrating that Government, media, CDC, Fauci, et al. aren't providing a complete picture and, worse, are sending inconsistent and mixed messages regarding what they do put out, while doing nothing but undermining what anyone else presents... until... they decide whether to incorporate it into their own messaging. In those observations/demonstrations, alternatives are now beginning to appear, with the 'authority' of documentation (even if it is only that we've tried this/that and it has/hasn't worked, something we didn't have a year ago in many/most cases); i.e., an argument beyond... Here's what I think and you should too, otherwise you are a libtard, stupid, docile, a shill, and all the other back-and-forth 'opinionating' we've seen that's just as "useful" to the average person as Government dogma is to us.
Put another way, it hasn't been so much a case of 'waiting' by the public-at-large (rather than select segments of the public) as it's been about looking for alternatives that can be shown (not simply claimed on the basis of...?) to be, at least potentially, viable to what we can now 'prove' isn't what the Government claimed to be "the only" alternative. The problem, however, is what Fastattack was alluding to... How to get 'the word' (the alternatives) out there and effectively argued so that the public-at-large is aware of them, providing them with an informed choice?
For me, and maybe for Thee, it might be enough to remember Reagan's warning to be suspicious...

But, being suspicious isn't proof or a concrete (albeit, 'proven') alternative for action. Without that, we're left with those who will continue to push things like CNN, two months ago, with - Joe Biden's Ronald Reagan problem...
And, The Daily Beast, yesterday (Yahoo link provided)... How Joe Biden—in Less Than Two Months—Turned Ronald Reagan’s Decades-Old Conventional Wisdom on Its Head
Not 'everyone' has waited a year; but, what do you propose for people to have done differently that would have made a significant difference?
Restaurants ignore Government edicts and simply remain open? Some tried and got shut down.
Manufacturers ignore Government, propose they produce PPE while still producing their primary product to keep money coming in the door, allowing them to produce both? Some tried and got shut down.
Bars ignore Government and remain open? Some tried and lost their license.
The list goes on.
Remove the politicians who enforced the mandates? First, the politicians aren't the enforcement arm of the Government. Second, how long would it take; at least as long as a year? Third, not everyone agrees or sees things the way you do, I do, or the way others do.
It's not a matter of being in 'lock step' so much as not knowing what the alternative is or whether there is/was an effective alternative. Simply saying that the virus doesn't exist, isn't harmful, etc. is patently as unrealistic as what the Left has done with their nefarious use of lock downs, mandates, etc. to 'control' the virus. Simply 'writing off' the casualties as...
... isn't going to win friends and influence people who've lost people, ostensibly due to the virus.Personally, I think a whole different approach should have been pursued as early as May last year, when Newsom was touting 70% of California's economy being open and claiming credit for it. It provided an hint that lock downs weren't THE answer and that people could be 'reasonable' in their approach; despite the media focus on those simply flouting 'reasonable' at that point. It was also when it should have been abundantly clear that the Left was using COVID as a 'fig leaf' for their power grab. As I noted in that thread, there was push back, even then and even by some in Hollywood...
Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
There has been no 'lock step' acceptance by the masses in an obsequious bowing to Government power. There have been many individuals who expressed concern, disagreement, et al. Yet, there has still been no 'universally' proposed, let alone, accepted alternative which could be shoved through... until recently.
It's exactly why Biden is now being seen as out-of-touch, even by some on the Left, in that he (or, more likely, his people) want to go back to the same things we did a year ago, using the same arguments, when the knowledge regarding and our ability to combat the virus has changed dramatically in that same year.
Just like last night, Laura Ingraham had a doctor on who is 'extremely frustrated' that a specific medicine is not being 'authorized' for use against COVID. When she asked him how it was different than Hydroxycholoriquine, his response was that HCQ, when it was being touted, didn't have a track record against COVID that public health officials would accept as valid. This one does and is, according to him, demonstrated as "100% without side effects;" i.e., it was an alternative to vaccines in that, given as a preventive or very early...
Sound familiar? I don't remember the name of the medication, but the gist of it was that doctors aren't prevented from prescribing it. (At least not yet.) It was simply not approved for use against COVID and the doctor was, evidently, attempting to get the word out. Yet... I just looked and couldn't immediately find the interview, let alone the information, via Google/YouTube. Is that "lock step thinking" on the part of the People in simply accepting Government's edicts or is it a case of not being made aware of alternatives to those edicts so as to enable individuals to make an informed decision over which choice to make?
Again, as I said earlier, I don't think anyone is 'blaming everything around us' in a futile exercise of complain, but do nothing except 'stupidly' or 'meekly' or 'obsequiously' comply. I think what's happening is that people are observing and demonstrating that Government, media, CDC, Fauci, et al. aren't providing a complete picture and, worse, are sending inconsistent and mixed messages regarding what they do put out, while doing nothing but undermining what anyone else presents... until... they decide whether to incorporate it into their own messaging. In those observations/demonstrations, alternatives are now beginning to appear, with the 'authority' of documentation (even if it is only that we've tried this/that and it has/hasn't worked, something we didn't have a year ago in many/most cases); i.e., an argument beyond... Here's what I think and you should too, otherwise you are a libtard, stupid, docile, a shill, and all the other back-and-forth 'opinionating' we've seen that's just as "useful" to the average person as Government dogma is to us.
Put another way, it hasn't been so much a case of 'waiting' by the public-at-large (rather than select segments of the public) as it's been about looking for alternatives that can be shown (not simply claimed on the basis of...?) to be, at least potentially, viable to what we can now 'prove' isn't what the Government claimed to be "the only" alternative. The problem, however, is what Fastattack was alluding to... How to get 'the word' (the alternatives) out there and effectively argued so that the public-at-large is aware of them, providing them with an informed choice?
For me, and maybe for Thee, it might be enough to remember Reagan's warning to be suspicious...

But, being suspicious isn't proof or a concrete (albeit, 'proven') alternative for action. Without that, we're left with those who will continue to push things like CNN, two months ago, with - Joe Biden's Ronald Reagan problem...
...President Ronald Reagan took the US on a radical course when he declared in his inaugural address, "In the present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."...
President Donald Trump continued this approach...
The Biden administration must now find a recovery path out of the wreckage of four decades of Reagan radicalism and the politics it created. Reagan got us stuck on the ideas that "government is the problem," cuts in federal tax cuts are necessary, environmental regulations are problematic and major national problems can be left to the states and cities...
President Donald Trump continued this approach...
The Biden administration must now find a recovery path out of the wreckage of four decades of Reagan radicalism and the politics it created. Reagan got us stuck on the ideas that "government is the problem," cuts in federal tax cuts are necessary, environmental regulations are problematic and major national problems can be left to the states and cities...
“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.’” With that famous line, uttered by Ronald Reagan on Aug. 12, 1986, during his second term as president, the GOP mantra for decades to come was born...
Those days are, thankfully, gone—at least for now. Even a good chunk of Republicans recognize that during this pandemic, the federal government offering to help is not “terrifying.” Rather, it can be a life-saver both in terms of health and finances...
Those days are, thankfully, gone—at least for now. Even a good chunk of Republicans recognize that during this pandemic, the federal government offering to help is not “terrifying.” Rather, it can be a life-saver both in terms of health and finances...


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