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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 9030

    Shocking... Eventually, COVID Could Be Added To The List Of Common Colds

    I'm shocked. Shocked, I say. Who could have predicted this eventuality?

    Health officials say the coronavirus will likely become endemic in the next several years. What does that mean?

    Wait? I think I've heard some of this before... But, where?

    Gimme a minute. It'll come to me...
  • #2
    Lanejsl
    Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 379

    It's almost like we brought a 22 trillion dollar economy to its knees over the common cold.

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    • #3
      Hammertime
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 3495

      The U.S. printed 20% of all of its currency in 2020.

      Most was spent on making fat cows fatter.

      Get some silver and toilet paper, it’s going to get rough

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      • #4
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        Gee, is it first quarter of 2020 again?

        Many arguments on this very forum - over this very topic... nearly a year ago.
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #5
          TrappedinCalifornia
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2018
          • 9030

          Originally posted by LBDamned
          Gee, is it first quarter of 2020 again?

          Many arguments on this very forum - over this very topic... nearly a year ago.
          We know there are those from the Left which peruse this site. Perhaps Fauci and the others simply cribbed from us...

          Originally posted by TrappedinCalifornia
          Might we need to simply find a way to 'move on'* in much the same way we have with 'the flu' and other maladies that we have been unable to 'eradicate' in the sense that man has never been able to 'beat' Mother Nature on a permanent basis? Remember, while it has been claimed that things like small pox have been 'eradicated,' the truth is that we have developed mitigation (vaccines) which have precluded a resurgence and if that mitigation ceases to be used or new strains develop (the US and Russia, theoretically [ahem], have vials of the actual strains and have worked on them as bio weapons) which defeat the mitigation, 'eradicated' becomes akin to...



          (*By 'move on,' I don't mean 'ignore' it. I mean accept that there are going to be casualties until we can develop precautions for mitigating the impact, but recognize that we can't shut the world down indefinitely and that once "this one" is mitigated or 'stopped,' the "next one" is, inevitably, in the on deck circle awaiting its opportunity.)

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          • #6
            LBDamned
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 19040

            ^^^ that was only a couple months ago... some of us have been arguing this for almost a year.
            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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            • #7
              CheapBloke
              Banned
              • Feb 2019
              • 3115

              And just like a common cold there is no need for a vaccine.

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              • #8
                LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Originally posted by S.O.A.R.
                And just like a common cold there is no need for a vaccine.
                Or a mask, or shutdown...

                Wash your hands, keep immune system healthy, dont go to work when sick (ive always used first 48 hrs rule and its served me well)... dont sneeze all,over the place or wipe your snot on stuff...

                Its the same chit we were saying a year ago... and many of the same kooks that knew nothing then will still insist they know otherwise now.
                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                • #9
                  TrappedinCalifornia
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 9030

                  Originally posted by LBDamned
                  ^^^ that was only a couple months ago... some of us have been arguing this for almost a year.
                  THAT was a summation of what I'd been saying for the same year.

                  One of the differences is that I had said that we'd all be exposed and, given that it is a variant of the same virus, saying that "it's like the flu" or "it's like a cold" was legitimate insofar as how the ordinary person viewed it. However, there are differences and some of them are distinct from the ordinary flu/colds particularly depending on the individual. (More so than the common cold.) It's been the messaging and media which has blurred the lines; exaggerating some of the effects and conflating them with others.

                  While there are those who have and continue to 'cherry pick' information or sources and who don't, truly, understand what they've read/heard, not 'everyone' who observes on or reports those differences is simply an ignorant kook or a mask freaker or someone with an agenda. Likewise, there are 'cherry pickers' on the denial side who are just as bad in terms of pushing their own views.

                  I'm not duenor or balgor. I have been openly critical of what the Government has been doing (not to mention many of duenor's proposed 'solutions') from the get-go and my posts bear that out. I'm also not a complete 'denier,' where I simply dismiss this as nothing more than "the common cold." What I have said and continue to say is that we don't know what the long-term implications are... yet... but we can't afford to shut everything down the way some would have us do or the way we have done.

                  I posted this, not as a source of 'vindication' for the 'deniers,' but as a sign that officials may, finally, be coming around to what a number of us on this site have been saying... Life involves risks and this virus, thus far, has not risen to the same level as measles, polio, small pox, etc. insofar as the ramifications of the disease. It may or may not be more virulent than the common cold; but, we won't know that, with any certainty, for some time to come, not only due to the nefarious machinations of the media and the data creators/processors, but the fact that it's only been 'in the wild' for just over a year and there's no way to know the potential mutations and what they will be capable of.

                  How far we'll have to and/or should go when it comes to mitigation in the mean time is the debate and that is very much going to be dependent upon the culture (from a worldwide perspective) and the individual's tolerance levels for both the virus and the Government in the case of the U.S.

                  Just like this...

                  Originally posted by S.O.A.R.
                  And just like a common cold there is no need for a vaccine.
                  And this part...

                  Originally posted by LBDamned
                  Or a mask, or shutdown...
                  Evidently, some are still glossing over the line in what was quoted in the OP...

                  Some endemic diseases have been eliminated in the U.S. after achieving herd immunity through vaccines and natural infection...
                  The 'need' for vaccines, masks, and what were supposed to be temporary shutdowns was never been about protecting individuals. It's been about a shortcut to 'herd immunity' or something close to it rather than waiting years, decades, or 'never' for it to naturally develop and about slowing the spread so as not to overwhelm the System. (The 'never' now being the realistic possibility that some of us have been putting out there for awhile.) Just because such measures were turned into a shield of indeterminate use/duration for the type of power grab we're now seeing from the Left doesn't obviate the fact that there is/was a certain amount of legitimacy to why such mitigation tactics exist, are promoted, and/or used.

                  I agree with this...

                  Originally posted by LBDamned
                  ...Wash your hands, keep immune system healthy, dont go to work when sick (ive always used first 48 hrs rule and its served me well)... dont sneeze all,over the place or wipe your snot on stuff...
                  Unfortunately, even that is not 100% possible. I've gone to work with 103 degree and higher temperatures. Not because I wanted to and not because I could function at full capacity; but, because I couldn't afford to lose the pay and could still perform my duties. I did, however, try to practice what is currently referred to as 'social distancing' and avoided wiping snot, sweat, 'tears' (from watery eyes) over everything. There are many, many people out there who can't afford to lose the pay, but who don't take similar precautions with an eye toward not 'spreading it,' whatever 'it' is.

                  If the boss ordered me to go home, I did; but, that rarely happened in that, most jobs, 'everyone' understood that you had to be truly down to not come in and they trusted you to make that assessment. They understood the risk of communicability and accepted it. Today, we're looking at employers requiring medical clearance in some 'official' capacity so as not to be legally liable for many employees to even be allowed to come to work and there are still (some demonstrating 'evil intent') discussions about whether it will be required even 'to leave the house' at some point. We have a generation or more who see the universe as revolving around them and are less tolerant of what most of us see as an 'average,' normal, reasonable risk in Life, particularly when they are permitted to blame someone else for putting them 'at risk.'

                  Short verison, be careful not to confuse "like the common cold" in terms of being an 'endemic' problem with it being "just the common cold." Remember, what they are saying is what I said, that it's gonna be awhile before it might be listed among the 'common colds' insofar as being a disease we can't/won't eradicate and will just have to live with. What too many others have been saying when it comes to 'getting on with it' is something... well... a bit different.

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                  • #10
                    CheapBloke
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 3115

                    Fun fact: The common cold has never had a vaccine and have never been able to successfully produce one ever. Scientists have been trying since the 50s.

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                    • #11
                      Transient
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2020
                      • 792

                      Color me shocked (that's some shade of pink, right?). How many people on this forum did I upset back in March and April when I said the same things the CDC is now saying? I don't really care. The truth is, it's truly a sad day: I was right. Don't tell the wife.

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                      • #12
                        SanDiego619
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 11907

                        Originally posted by Lanejsl
                        It's almost like we brought a 22 trillion dollar economy to its knees over the common cold.
                        I believe that is what several of us have been saying from the very beginning... just the flu, the common cold, the sniffles.

                        And mainly: It was never about the virus.

                        Everyone who said this was correct.
                        Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                        • #13
                          californialawsucks
                          Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 250

                          Originally posted by S.O.A.R.
                          And just like a common cold there is no need for a vaccine.
                          Taking care of three relatively young patients with 0 or less than one comorbidities who have been kept alive by ventilator for over thirty days. Definitely just the cold.
                          Last edited by californialawsucks; 02-18-2021, 10:37 AM.

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                          • #14
                            CheapBloke
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 3115

                            Originally posted by californialawsucks
                            Taking care of three relatively young patients with 0 or less than one comorbidities who have been kept alive by ventilator for over thirty days. Definitely just the cold.
                            Yup, as dangerous as a common cold.

                            You know common cold can kill?

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                            • #15
                              californialawsucks
                              Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 250

                              Originally posted by S.O.A.R.
                              Yup, as dangerous as a common cold.

                              You know common cold can kill?

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