COVID Passport or Vaccination ID Question...

[turbolxstang]

If they become mandatory to get on an airplane, go back to school, go to sporting events, concerts, enter government buildings, etc

Can someone please explain the logic behind it to me, does the Covid vaccine actually prevent you from spreading the virus to other people, does it just greatly reduce the severity of the symptoms you get or is it combination of both?

[Corbin Dallas]

Logic?

HAHHHAHHAHA Good one...


Will the vaccine (flu shot) prevent you from spreading the Covid19 FLU? - No

Could it possibly reduce the symptoms of the Covid19 FLU? - Yes, IF You get that strain, otherwise no.

[turbolxstang]

Guess no one but the above poster has an opinion on this, you’d think this would make people question things, turned on the local news today and it was all about mass vaccination sites, guess protecting ones self with the trial vaccine is what’s important since the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread of the virus apparently, nor do all the government imposed restrictions, the hospitals seemed to handle the influx of COVID during the surge on top of surge on top of surge on top of surge on top surge... thanks goodness there were close to zero cases of the flu during the triple surge

[Scota4570]

The logic involves a ruling oligarchy that want to micromanage your life and society in general. So sure line up for you Government shot, it will do you bunches of good.

[Foothills]

Several countries require a Yellow Fever vaccine for travelers who are visiting.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/countries-requiring-yellow-fever-vaccination-2972946

Yellow Fever used to be a problem in the U.S. also:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/fever-major-american-epidemics-of-yellow-fever/

[Dirtlaw]

I am not weighing in on the logic behind it, but I do have some concerns about the vaccine itself. I don't buy off on many of the conspiracy theories out there, but I do have serious concerns regarding the vaccines the demand that we use. My wife has us signed up, but I am reconsidering what she has done.

[Kyle1886]

To my knowledge, none of the vaccines have been approved for young children. I could be wrong on that, but don't think so.

Many women of child bearing age are reluctant to get the vaccine because of no long term data; think thalidomide fiasco.

For some groups of people it make more sense to "wait and see", others due to employment may be mandated.

Requirements for travel may be "required" but you can bet it will be challenged.

Remember there is a time lag between dose one and two. From what I've read you may still infect someone, then again it depends on the load and their immune system.

In August I will be 80, and I ain't rushing out to poked.

The powers that be will take every advantage to control. Use your own common sense and like anything else be situation aware and avoid crows where possible.

Best of luck
Respectfully
Kyle

[SanDiego619]

They don't really know anything about the vaccine yet since it is untested. They said you still need masks and social distancing even if you get the vaccine. If that is the case, what does the vaccine do? Seems pretty stupid to me.

[Kyle1886]

Several countries require a Yellow Fever vaccine for travelers who are visiting.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/countries-requiring-yellow-fever-vaccination-2972946

Yellow Fever used to be a problem in the U.S. also:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...-yellow-fever/

The difference is that the Yellow Fever vaccine(s) did have a much longer test period that any of the Covid vaccines before release to the general public. That is the issue.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892770/

It's lengthy but covers the history of Yellow Fever and the quest for a vaccine.

Respectfully
Kyle

[turbolxstang]

Several countries require a Yellow Fever vaccine for travelers who are visiting.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/countries-requiring-yellow-fever-vaccination-2972946

Yellow Fever used to be a problem in the U.S. also:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...-yellow-fever/

What does this have to do with the COVID vaccine that is topic # 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on the news, if you are making a correlation between the 2 please explain

[Scota4570]

I am not anti vaxer. Yellow fever, tetanus, mumps, rubella, small pox, polio, and a bunch of others are real and serious diseases that will really kill you. Covid is a flu that has a small chance of killing you if you are old and or already in the process of dying. I have been vaccinated for the serious stuff, I see no medical reason to be vaccinated for covid. Forcing people to accept a needle for a mostly innocuous pathogen makes it appear likely there is another reason they are doing it. And, "they" are some pretty bad people who do not care about my well being.

[ACfixer]

I am not anti vaxer. Yellow fever, tetanus, mumps, rubella, small pox, polio, and a bunch of others are real and serious diseases that will really kill you. Covid is a flu that has a small chance of killing you if you are old and or already in the process of dying. I have been vaccinated for the serious stuff, I see no medical reason to be vaccinated for covid. Forcing people to accept a needle for a mostly innocuous pathogen makes it appear likely there is another reason they are doing it. And, "they" are some pretty bad people who do not care about my well being.

Hard to say it any better than that.

[turbolxstang]

This is nothing more than an attempt of increased gooberment control and removal of more of your civil liberties. Any requirements (vacc pass, etc) to provide proof of the vaccination is just a way to prove your submission to their control. The vaccine is useless it does nothing to prevent or protect you. Bear in mind vaccines normally take over a decade of research, development and human testing; yet somehow this was magically created in less than a year. Anyone possessing rudimentary critical thinking skills should question this and yet, countless sheeple worldwide are voluntarily taking it. Also there are some who also believe this vaccine is being pushed under the guise of less than pure intentions, but I digress. Lastly, watch this video before it is removed and it may offer a more contrarian perspective to what is being widely accepted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J494wStm1NA Stay safe and God Bless.

[bbguns44]

I just got my 1st shot & they gave me a vaccination card which I can fake easily. I don't know of any "official" card but if they are going to check, they'll need to come up with a forge proof card else a lot of people will be using fake cards.

[Foothills]

It's "precedented."

What does this have to do with the COVID vaccine that is topic # 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on the news, if you are making a correlation between the 2 please explain

I'm simply noting that a number of countries have existing vaccine requirements, so it's not a new idea. Many of them have much stricter quarantine requirements for arriving travelers in this pandemic also.

That being said, controlling it doesn't make the population immune to it. You can see the different American attitude that they'd rather just get it and build natural immunity. That's kind of the "Little House on the Prarie" method of getting all the kids sick with measles, etc. to develop immunity.