55 People Died in US After Receiving COVID-19 Vaccines

[bigbossman]

Hint, here's what a deviation from baseline looks like

Again - People seem to be getting sick and dying because of the vaccine..... irrespective of your "baseline and deviations from baseline numbers" abstraction/diversion tactic. Do try to keep up.

[bigbossman]

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Again - People seem to be getting sick and dying because of the vaccine..... irrespective of your "baseline and deviations from baseline numbers" abstraction/diversion tactic. Do try to keep up.

[UCT]

"I have little faith you anti-vaxxers will believe or bother with trying to figure out the difference between baseline and deviations from baseline numbers."

Thank you for proving my point!

Moronic to assume I am anti-vaxxer, since I have taken every vaccination recommended by my doctor except flu, which is only 50 percent effective in a good year.

However, having a degree in microbiology and having seen your posts, I am certain I know more about the subject than you.

Drug companies chose to use the mRNA for the entire protein structure of the spike because they know that is what the body creates antibodies against after coronavirus infection. It therefore follows that any autoimmune disease or complications that would occur from exposure to the coronavirus is likely to occur from exposure to the vaccine. Simply logic even for those without the training. So one would expect the same proportion to die from the vaccine as die from autoimmune reaction to the virus.

[bigbossman]

Moronic to assume I am anti-vaxxer, since I have taken every vaccination recommended by my doctor except flu, which is only 50 percent effective in a good year.

However, having a degree in microbiology and having seen your posts, I am certain I know more about the subject than you.

Drug companies chose to use the mRNA for the entire protein structure of the spike because they know that is what the body creates antibodies against after coronavirus infection. It therefore follows that any autoimmune disease or complications that would occur from exposure to the coronavirus is likely to occur from exposure to the vaccine. Simply logic even for those without the training. So one would expect the same proportion to die from the vaccine as die from autoimmune reaction to the virus.

But, but, but..... "baseline and deviations from baseline numbers"!!

[balgor]

Moronic to assume I am anti-vaxxer, since I have taken every vaccination recommended by my doctor except flu, which is only 50 percent effective in a good year.

However, having a degree in microbiology and having seen your posts, I am certain I know more about the subject than you.

Drug companies chose to use the mRNA for the entire protein structure of the spike because they know that is what the body creates antibodies against after coronavirus infection. It therefore follows that any autoimmune disease or complications that would occur from exposure to the coronavirus is likely to occur from exposure to the vaccine. Simply logic even for those without the training. So one would expect the same proportion to die from the vaccine as die from autoimmune reaction to the virus.

Everything you posted above is a non-sequitur.

"If someone is old, gets covid and dies the death was caused by covid. However, if someone is old gets the vaccine and then dies it was not caused by the vaccine, right?"

This statement is clearly wrong and demonstrates a complete lack of statistical training. Excess deaths are deviations from baseline by definition

"So one would expect the same proportion to die from the vaccine as die from autoimmune reaction to the virus."

Not borne out by the actual data and crazy supposition to start with. The spike protein isn't the dangerous part of the virus, hence it's usage in the vaccines. It allows biding to ACE2 receptors to allow entry. Where were all the auto-immune responses in the trials? Millions of people have gotten the vaccines, shouldn't we be seeing a spike in auto-immune disorders? Hmmmm? Seriously, you have a degree in microbiology? Really?

Typical I'm not an anti-vaxxer, BaHt Deeze CaViD VaxX R SUpeR DanGerOS!

The vaccines are astonishing safe and effective PERIOD.

[CmdrChuch]

Drug companies chose to use the mRNA for the entire protein structure of the spike because they know that is what the body creates antibodies against after coronavirus infection. It therefore follows that any autoimmune disease or complications that would occur from exposure to the coronavirus is likely to occur from exposure to the vaccine. Simply logic even for those without the training. So one would expect the same proportion to die from the vaccine as die from autoimmune reaction to the virus.

"simply logic even for those without training" except there's a lot of false assumptions in your statement above.

Drug companies "chose" the spike protein to replicate because it was a unique identifier to the rest of the virus. In addition, it also serves as the key it uses to enter our cells to replicate. It was like, the perfect storm protein to vaccinate against. Your body will attack the virus because of the identified spike protein without even looking at the rest of the virus. Plus, if the spike protein mutates and your body no longer recognizes it, it is very likely the mutation will not be able to enter your cells to replicate.

People have auto immune reactions to the virus, not just the spike protein. The virus is entering your cells and replicating, that puts your immune response on high alert. Some bodies over-react. Does the spike protein play a role in your immune systems reaction? Probably, but "logic without training" would tell me it's likely a much smaller portion than the over reactions caused by the coronavirus itself.

The same amount of people will not die from the vaccine as those from the virus. In general, your immune response is pretty standard for "new protein I don't recognize, so it must be bad", but can be much more harsh for a virus that is actively entering your cells and replicating.

I have kept up with vaccine news, this was a specific lot of the moderna vaccine that is raising flags. It needs to be investigated as to why this lot is causing higher than expected reactions, but one bad lot does not make the original product faulty.

[bigbossman]

Typical I'm not an anti-vaxxer, BaHt Deeze CaViD VaxX R SUpeR DanGerOS!

More condescending, insulting dismissal by a self-aggrandizing ECONOMY major. Derrr...... we just ignorant folks round here..... we can't possibly unnnerstand what you high-minded intellectualizers is trying to tell us!!

[bigbossman]

And in other news:

https://rumble.com/vczp3z-california-halts-moderna-vaccine-shots-over-possible-severe-allergic-reacti.html

But but but....

The vaccines are astonishing safe and effective PERIOD.

[Transient]

And in other news:

https://rumble.com/vczp3z-california-halts-moderna-vaccine-shots-over-possible-severe-allergic-reacti.html

But but but....

My son's best friend's dad is an ICU nurse in San Diego. He got both doses of the Moderna vaccine, and had minor symptoms. My wife got the Pfizer vaccines on the same days, and the 2nd dose knocked her on her butt. She ended up spending the day after getting the 2nd dose in her office pushing paperwork with a fever, shivering, and wrapped in a blanket. Both had no evidence of reactions the day after that.

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[slamfire1]

As of 21 Jan there have been 24,037,236 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with 398,435 deaths in the US

https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

These numbers are under reported as I know people who have come down with COVID and did not report it to anyone. I don't know how deaths are reported.

So, 55 deaths taking the vaccine versus 400,000 deaths without taking the vaccine. And, given the slow roll out of vaccines, and that the CDC recommended injection priorities based on social justice considerations, (that is not whitey!) and not based on those who are most at risk, and the most vulnerable , the US death rate might hit half a million before years end.

[Cali74]

But but but...
I thought every life mattered?

[CAL.BAR]

[edgerly779]

Put all antivaxxers in a compound let the disease run its course. The survivors will have herd immunity.

[Madmox]

First photo is of Tiffany Dover who is critical care unit nurse manager at the CHI Memorial Hospital in Chattanooga, Tennessee
from Tuesday, December 17, 2020 when the ijection was administered.

https://local12.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/a102ea3e-e04a-4c1f-9553-25a742c9ca2e-large16x9_firstvaccine3.PNG

However, the second photo appears to be an 'in-stock' photo of a cute young asian nurse outside the hospital from Tuesday,
November 24, 2020. Cannot tell if even the same person to the first photo, and the dates appear to be a mismatch to support a
narration for an after photo.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/nruboc/nruboc1001/nruboc100100083/6283196-a-cute-young-asian-nurse-outside-the-hospital.jpg

Either way, this nurse is doing just fine, and the stupid knowingly false reports on the Internet about her death are just
that, stupid mixed in with anti-vac sentiment.

[hunterb]

OP is a China troll. Dont feed the troll.