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  • sonofeugene
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 4353

    Can Anyone Link Me To.....

    .....some valid medical reports that say that masks don't work? Looking for peer reviewed and published documents from respected doctors and researchers.

    Thanks!
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  • #2
    Squatch
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 886

    This article and research is from 2017 so it isnt biased by Covidmania.

    And yes, masks do not work.

    Australia has just suffered a severe flu season, with 299,211 laboratory-confirmed cases, at last count, and 662 deaths. This might be a sign of what's to come for the UK and US as the virus spreads to the northern hemisphere.


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    • #3
      Sousuke
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3782

      Originally posted by sonofeugene
      .....some valid medical reports that say that masks don't work? Looking for peer reviewed and published documents from respected doctors and researchers.

      Thanks!
      This is probably your best one stop shop.

      There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.


      Caveat - All of these are in medical settings which is the big argument about if they are valid in discussing mask use by the community.
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      • #4
        sonofeugene
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 4353

        Thanks for those links, especially the one from Sousuke.
        Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

        A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

        Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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        • #5
          SAN compnerd
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2009
          • 4725

          So here's a link to the Danish study conducted last year during the pandemic. First study of it's kind to be done during a pandemic and 6000 people participated. Half wore the mask, half did not. They lost about a thousand people from the masking arm before the study ended, but there was close to 5k people left and plenty to see if there was any statistically measurable effect of mask wearing. https://healthy-skeptic.com/2020/11/...sh-mask-study/

          here's a paper of several studies and their lack of effectiveness and some other discussion on how it's tough to control for all variables to study mask effectiveness. Also some discussion of Minimum Infectious Dose, or how small a particle/droplet can be and still carry enough viral material to sicken a person. MID is sub 1 nanometer and the N95 filters out most particles over 300 nanometers. https://www.technocracy.news/censore...sks-dont-work/

          Observational evidence includes Texas and Florida vs California which is touted as the worst infected place in the world after almost a year of lock downs and masking. https://rationalground.com/post-than...at-masks-work/
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          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
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          • #6
            osis32
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2009
            • 5912

            There are classes you have to take to get certified in properly using Ppe. wearing a mask may help a little bit but you basically can't touch it after application. And if you want full protection without some crazy suit you need goggles too. Masks are about obedience and seeing how many sheep are in the populace.
            Just a libertarian guy in a Leftist Authoritarian state.

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            • #7
              duenor
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Mar 2007
              • 4617

              "Masks are all about control." What control? What benefit does having everyone mask up give to whatever shadowy power elite one imagines to exist?

              We pay taxes, we pay for auto tags, we pay for hunting tags, we pay for DROS and 4473, we pay for our licenses, we pay for the simple right to live on the property we already paid for - but "they" need to implement masks to establish control?

              We can't go out naked. We can't have sex in public. We can't drink in public, even if we are just sitting on a bench. Can't even have a rock of cocaine in our pocket, even if we aren't doing anything with it.

              But masks are the effort to control the populace?
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              • #8
                middleofnowhere
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 579

                Dang, you guys are good.

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