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  • Marauder2003
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    • Aug 2010
    • 2971

    Pfizer vs Moderna

    What is the difference at the cell/molecular level? Do they work differently?
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  • #2
    XDJYo
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    • Apr 2012
    • 6530

    Will this be on Pay Per View? Rooting for Moderna personally.
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    • #3
      E92335i
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 2937

      I’ll go for Moderna because the name sounds so modern.

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      • #4
        duenor
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        • Mar 2007
        • 4617

        I'd like the Moderna vac because Fauci and Kizzy were on the dev team. I wouldn't be opposed at all to the Pfizer one, though.
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        • #5
          JusticeQuest
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 142

          Hospital halts COVID vaccinations after 4 workers have reaction:

          https://t.co/6SN9nz77Cr
          (https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...611888641?s=03)

          Did you see the nurse faint after taking the Covid vaccine in the following TruNews headlines from Friday:

          TruNews Headlines with Kerry Kinsey - December 18, 2020
          -A nurse in Chattanooga, Tennessee collapses on live television after getting the Coronavirus vaccine, in El Paso, Texas it appears a nurse didn't depress the plunger on a syringe during a similar hospital vaccine event, pressure from social media forces the hospital to do it over the next day, now that the Moderna vaccine is out medical experts from around the world are saying that not only is there no Coronavirus Pandemic, but that the vaccine is dangerous because it never went through animal trials and there was a race to produce it, on "Corona. Crazy,' in Bolivia one of the most popular Christmas decorations this year is a figurine of a "Baby Jesus," wearing a face mask and a hazmat suit, and an interesting look at the screws, rods and hooks that helped Kerry Kinsey's wife Angela recover from scoliosis surgery thanks to a 60 degree curve in her spine, it's a fascinating story about the "Daytona Deformity System'

          TruNews is the world's leading news source that reports, analyzes, and comments on global events and trends with a conservative, orthodox Christian worldview.


          I don't think Covid is a hoax but do think it is being used to usher in 'The Great Reset' (see the following book by Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum):

          COVID-19: The Great Reset



          Saw the following one as well:

          67 Million to face eviction or foreclosure:

          Is There Such a Thing as a Humane Eviction?

          The latest news and headlines from Yahoo! News. Get breaking news stories and in-depth coverage with videos and photos.


          Economic Crisis Hits Americans As Millions Out of A Job, Buildings Empty, More Wage Cuts Coming:




          Following live stream with former Navy Seal Matt Bracken (live now) should be interesting too as he just mentioned 'The Great Reset' and evictions as well:

          Live Stream With Matt Bracken:

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          • #6
            nitrofc
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2009
            • 6654

            Originally posted by JusticeQuest
            Hospital halts COVID vaccinations after 4 workers have reaction:



            Saw following Tweet as well:

            Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) tweeted at 9:53 AM on Fri, Dec 18, 2020:
            A nurse writes about her 105-degree fever during the @pfizer trial. “It scared me.”

            Remember: these volunteers were both in generally good health and motivated. They WANTED the vaccine to work. The public is not likely to be so forgiving - or handle the side effects as well. https://t.co/6SN9nz77Cr
            (https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...611888641?s=03)

            Did you see the nurse faint after taking the Covid vaccine in the following TruNews headlines from Friday:

            TruNews Headlines with Kerry Kinsey - December 18, 2020
            -A nurse in Chattanooga, Tennessee collapses on live television after getting the Coronavirus vaccine, in El Paso, Texas it appears a nurse didn't depress the plunger on a syringe during a similar hospital vaccine event, pressure from social media forces the hospital to do it over the next day, now that the Moderna vaccine is out medical experts from around the world are saying that not only is there no Coronavirus Pandemic, but that the vaccine is dangerous because it never went through animal trials and there was a race to produce it, on "Corona. Crazy,' in Bolivia one of the most popular Christmas decorations this year is a figurine of a "Baby Jesus," wearing a face mask and a hazmat suit, and an interesting look at the screws, rods and hooks that helped Kerry Kinsey's wife Angela recover from scoliosis surgery thanks to a 60 degree curve in her spine, it's a fascinating story about the "Daytona Deformity System'

            TruNews is the world's leading news source that reports, analyzes, and comments on global events and trends with a conservative, orthodox Christian worldview.


            I don't think Covid is a hoax but do think it is being used to usher in 'The Great Reset' (see the following book by Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum):

            COVID-19: The Great Reset



            Saw the following one as well:

            67 Million to face eviction or foreclosure:

            Is There Such a Thing as a Humane Eviction?

            The latest news and headlines from Yahoo! News. Get breaking news stories and in-depth coverage with videos and photos.


            Economic Crisis Hits Americans As Millions Out of A Job, Buildings Empty, More Wage Cuts Coming:




            Following live stream with former Navy Seal Matt Bracken (live now) should be interesting too as he just mentioned 'The Great Reset' and evictions as well:

            Live Stream With Matt Bracken:

            https://youtu.be/auuNgfW4oRA
            They probably fast balled in the 2 emergency use authorization's well before the full FDA phase III trial's approval knowing the economy is on the fringe edge of a hard re-set. Ya can feel it in the air.

            I keep sayin...it could be a good time to stand back out of the way, go neutral and watch.

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            • #7
              zrunr
              Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 172

              Originally posted by Marauder2003
              What is the difference at the cell/molecular level? Do they work differently?
              The technology that generates the vaccination effect is similar. Both encode a portion of the spike proteins from the coronavirus. A molecule of RNA is then injected into your arm and some of that gets taken up into your muscle cells. The cells then express the encoded fragment of the spike protein and your body sees that as foreign and mounts an immune response against the protein.

              The formulation and delivery systems are different.

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              • #8
                ibanezfoo
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2007
                • 11796

                Why choose? Just take them both and be extra sure you aren't part of the .02% that die.
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                • #9
                  HibikiR
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 2417

                  Originally posted by zrunr
                  The formulation and delivery systems are different.
                  To expand on that just a little: while the Moderna vaccine still has to stored in sub-zero temps, the degree required is not as cold as the temp required by the Pfizer vaccine. Dunno what that will translate to in logistics.

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19586

                    Originally posted by zrunr
                    The technology that generates the vaccination effect is similar. Both encode a portion of the spike proteins from the coronavirus. A molecule of RNA is then injected into your arm and some of that gets taken up into your muscle cells. The cells then express the encoded fragment of the spike protein and your body sees that as foreign and mounts an immune response against the protein.

                    The formulation and delivery systems are different.
                    My understanding is that the virus itself is not present in the Pfizer vaccine so there's no possibility of catching the rona from the vaccine. Is the Moderna one similar?

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                    • #11
                      HibikiR
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2014
                      • 2417

                      Originally posted by sigstroker
                      My understanding is that the virus itself is not present in the Pfizer vaccine so there's no possibility of catching the rona from the vaccine. Is the Moderna one similar?
                      Neither vaccine contains the entire code for the virus, just one small part of the outside.

                      In fact, both of those vaccines don't deliver the mRNA using a virus, unlike some other candidates that are also funded by Trump's Operation Warp Speed, making them that much more incomplete compared to a real virus. Those other vaccines use a modified adenovirus (common cause of sniffles) to deliver that mRNA for that one small part.

                      In short, none of the COVID vaccines carry enough code to allow you to catch the rona.
                      Last edited by HibikiR; 12-21-2020, 12:18 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Den60
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                        • Jul 2016
                        • 2695

                        Originally posted by HibikiR
                        To expand on that just a little: while the Moderna vaccine still has to stored in sub-zero temps, the degree required is not as cold as the temp required by the Pfizer vaccine. Dunno what that will translate to in logistics.
                        The Moderna vaccine can be stored in a standard freezer.


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                        • #13
                          Epaphroditus
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                          • Sep 2013
                          • 4888

                          When this is all over and the side effects and morbidity and mortality from taking the vaccine are worse than getting covid who gets the blame and how does it get set right?
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                          • #14
                            ACfixer
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                            • Feb 2012
                            • 6053

                            Originally posted by duenor
                            I'd like the Moderna vac because Fauci and Kizzy were on the dev team. I wouldn't be opposed at all to the Pfizer one, though.
                            I'm for you taking either one or both if it will stop your incessant whimpering.
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                            • #15
                              duenor
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 4617

                              Originally posted by ACfixer
                              I'm for you taking either one or both if it will stop your incessant whimpering.
                              I'd gladly take both if you'd stop spouting misinformation and lies, especially in threads about Southern California while you apparently live in TN.
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