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  • duenor
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Mar 2007
    • 4617

    56 ICU beds remaining in LA County. <2.7% capacity.

    Just yesterday I had posted about how capacity was at only 4.2%. I hope people don't insist on gathering for Christmas.
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  • #2
    NorcalGSG
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1305

    It's all fun and games until people start getting turned away because there isn't any room or resources or personnel left to help. This Thanksgiving/winter surge is no joke.

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    • #3
      Transient
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2020
      • 792

      Don't count on the USNS Mercy to go to there to help. It's been in dry dock since it returned from LA. The next humanitarian medical mission in the South Pacific is being planned without it. Plan on seeing temporary sites created in hospital parking lots, at stadiums, convention centers, etc.

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      • #4
        jorgi23
        Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 476

        Covid is a myth, to steal an election. It worked

        now we are all just useful idiots.

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        • #5
          VictorFranko
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2010
          • 13737

          Remember when all this started, what was it, last March?
          "They" set up portable medical tents all across the country for dealing with the COVID and when they weren't used "they" took them all down.
          So, where the hell are all these portable medical facilities now and if they were good enough then, why not now?

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          • #6
            anthonyca
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6316

            Why aren't states like Texas and Florida that have been open for months having people dead all over the streets because every hospital is full? They have been open since around April.
            https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

            Originally posted by Wherryj
            I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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            • #7
              blkside
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1301

              I drove through Oregon recently and all indoor dining is still open, along with everything else. I didn't see any dead bodies lying in the street. Maybe its the weather, cause it must not get cold there because if it did then people would be dying from the "Winter Surge"....
              Originally posted by TonyNorCal
              If I'm going to spend money to touch a woman then it's going to be at a Nevada brothel, on Craiglist hooker, or trolling the streets in a camper van.

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              • #8
                Moemoe1
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 1571

                Coviidiots who seriously think this crap is serious hahahahahahah this is all it took for tards to give away their personal freedoms, just a wee virus.... pathetic

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                • #9
                  Dnele928
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 685

                  Ummmm...add more? Did that before...not really that tough. Oh, wait, it’s easier to shut down the entire state.

                  Besides, Covid wards are not commingled with regular ICU’s. So which one is being counted?

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                  • #10
                    duenor
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4617

                    Originally posted by Dnele928
                    Ummmm...add more? Did that before...not really that tough. Oh, wait, it’s easier to shut down the entire state.

                    Besides, Covid wards are not commingled with regular ICU’s. So which one is being counted?
                    Both. Adult ICU is ICU. The days when Covid19 patients had their own negative pressure rooms is long gone. We're making do with portal HEPA air filters, much like the ones people have in their house to deal with wildfire smoke.

                    With regard to "just add more" - we can always build more emergency facilities (although we have not). But you can't build more staff, and specialized equipment is also difficult to slap together. There's a reason why travelling nurses can now make 8-10k per -week-.

                    With regard to the early emergency facilities, they were chartered and designed as overflow for NON COVID19 patients, remember? It wasn't until late in the deployment, about three weeks before the comfort left, that they were allowed to see a single COVID19 patient. With the exception of Wisconsin, AFAIK there are no emergency facilities being constructed.

                    There are also, AFAIK, no convalescent facilities for non acute COVID19 patients who need a place to recover without infecting their families (or others in their nursing homes). Hospitals are not convalescent facilities - the traditional model is to release patients to SNFs for recovery. However, you then run the risk of what happened in NY.
                    Last edited by duenor; 12-15-2020, 8:41 AM.
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                    • #11
                      larkja
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 1362

                      In past years, when there have been outbreaks of flu and other diseases, what was the availability %? I did a cursory search, but this information is not quickly available. Will have to look later.

                      A couple days ago, I spoke with a local nurse and she reiterated my thoughts. This time of year, availability always decreases because of illness. It's cyclical.

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                      • #12
                        Den60
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 2695

                        Originally posted by larkja
                        In past years, when there have been outbreaks of flu and other diseases, what was the availability %? I did a cursory search, but this information is not quickly available. Will have to look later.

                        A couple days ago, I spoke with a local nurse and she reiterated my thoughts. This time of year, availability always decreases because of illness. It's cyclical.
                        2017-2018 flu season:



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                        • #13
                          LTC-J
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1066

                          Link to article?

                          How about a break down on why they are in ICU? And how about length of time in and expected length of time? And how about normal ICU numbers?

                          Otherwise, it is just cherry picking numbers on a bad day to scream the world is ending.

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                          • #14
                            Den60
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 2695

                            Originally posted by duenor
                            Just yesterday I had posted about how capacity was at only 4.2%. I hope people don't insist on gathering for Christmas.
                            Yep, and the eggnog will be flowing.


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                            • #15
                              Den60
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 2695

                              Here in San Diego ICU beds at 17% remaining. Hospital beds at 75% (as of yesterday).

                              OC reported 75% capacity for hospital beds and 11% of ICU as of 12/12:

                              a. Table 1 includes the current bed capacity in the hospital system. Due to sustained stability of the hospitals system, reporting has decreased to once a week for these indicators. As of 12/12/20, OC hospitals are at 75% occupancy. ICU bed availability is at 11% with 70 adult ICU beds and ventilator availability is at 54% with 495 ventilators. The system has sufficient surge capacity with over 1,100 beds available.


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