It took 7 days: UNC reverts to remote learning only

[sd_shooter]

You are still missing the point. You said, "let's speed it up and get everyone infected so we can get it over with" (paraphrase). My point is, good luck getting parents to get on board with that idea - that schools should encourage everyone to get it.

That's what they're doing in Europe. It's only in the propaganda-driven USA that we still have a panic.

[Omgnqqb]

You are still missing the point. You said, "let's speed it up and get everyone infected so we can get it over with" (paraphrase). My point is, good luck getting parents to get on board with that idea - that schools should encourage everyone to get it.

I rarely post, I mostly read. But as a parent I have 3 boys in 3 different schools. And you must be speaking from a 3rd person perspective, but I will tell you as a parent, I am not the only one that is frustrated with all this mumbo jumbo B.S.

Also, must I mention I am on the front lines and lost track of how many nursing homes, hospitals, health care centers and have went on covid (+) patients.
It really is not all as everyone portrays it to be that are sitting at home behind their computers twiddling their thumbs.
We gown up, goggles, gloves, N95's, etc during work. But lets get real here, at these places the possibility of being infected is higher due to the increase of tests, increase of people who have underlying issues, who actually have a ton of other medical issues, etc.
Basically the places I go to are higher risk and I get the reason we gear up is due to the higher risk patients at these places.
At schools though... really? The argument is moot.

The most important thing is to look to the people who are on the front lines day in and day out. We go about this on a daily basis. We take percaution. What is the percentage rate of us dying?

For the record, I've seen more patients recovering from covid than not. So the numbers I see and read everywhere are always a little conflicting to what I am experiencing with my own eyes in person.

[240z]

I will Give You That Point

You are still missing the point. You said, "let's speed it up and get everyone infected so we can get it over with" (paraphrase). My point is, good luck getting parents to get on board with that idea - that schools should encourage everyone to get it.

No one said that schools should encourage everyone to get infected any more than they encourage rapes, assaults and binge drinking, but as common as those things are, no one argues that colleges should be shut down because several hundred or assaults and rapes took place on a given campus.

Yes, many parents these days are over-protective, yet they still pay big bucks for their kids to go to college and risk all of the other things I listed, which are a far greater risk to their kids than Covid-19. Why is that, do you think? Might it be related to the media coverage of this pandemic?

I bet they all still buy groceries, and go to the hardware store and do all of those terribly risky things and do not care one bit about the people serving them that get exposed to hundreds or thousands of customers every day.

What some here cannot seem to fathom, even after months of all of this nonsense, is that it is not a matter of this country did it right, and that country did it wrong or masking and social distancing and lockdowns, as it is 100% clear, no doubt at all, that these measures just spread out the curve over a longer time period. Many of these places touted as having "done it right" are now seeing cases rise. Why? Because that is how it works and all of these control measures just put off the inevitable.

Until we hit herd immunity levels or get an effective vaccine (maybe never, who knows?) there will be continued infections. Infections in people that don't get ill and go to the hospital are EXACTLY what is needed to stop/slow this virus.

Look at New York and Sweden. They seem to have it under control. Is this because they are so much better at masks and lockdowns? No, they got hammered by the virus early on, likely have had many more infections than we know (after all, we keep hearing that many are asymptomatic or just get a mild illness that might not be recognized as a Covid infection) and now have a level of immunity that other places who locked down do not have.

Protect yourself if you choose (I do as I am out in the public every day as part of my job), that's fine. Put reasonable controls in the colleges, that's fine too, but stop the freaking out over people that just test positive and are not at great risk and pretending that locking everyone down will solve the problem. It will not.

[smashycrashy]

Notre Dame..

[balgor]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-reopening-notre-dame-to-move-classes-online-due-to-coronavirus-spike-11597784400

Notre Dame, Michigan State Act to Slow Spread of Virus

Both schools cite need for restrictions as cases rise; Notre Dame cancels in-person classes as Michigan State asks students to stay home

[Scota4570]

There is no fact based, risk based, justification for closing schools. It is purely political.

[duenor]

There is no fact based, risk based, justification for closing schools. It is purely political.

That doesn't quite make sense to me. ND is a private school. They are not about to take a huge hit in terms of funding, productivity, etc just so they can contribute to some political message.

[smashycrashy]

Definition of insanity, doing the same thing over again and expect different results

[Citadelgrad87]

That doesn't quite make sense to me. ND is a private school. They are not about to take a huge hit in terms of funding, productivity, etc just so they can contribute to some political message.

No, that doesnt follow at all.

Our daughter attends a private school, as well. They were gangbusters on outside classes, social distancing, but in person learning.

Until governor Newscumbag declared flatly that schools will not repoen.

From a risk management standpoint, that is a trend that a large organization does not get to buck. They don't have to be on board with any political ideology at all. Panic is a powerful thing.

[Citadelgrad87]

Definition of insanity, doing the same thing over again and expect different results

WHen "control epidemic" means strangle the economy, good luck reviving it.