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  • SAN compnerd
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    • May 2009
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    Top state official caught using 'doctored' chart, data to push face mask mandate

    Top state official caught using 'doctored' chart, data to push face mask mandate
    Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman presented a coronavirus case chart to the media last week to contrast Kansas counties abiding by Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly's mask mandate and those that have not, The Sentinel reported.

    Norman claimed that counties abiding by the mandate are "winning the battle," suggesting that counties that have not followed the mandate are losing.

    "All of the improvement in the case development comes from those counties wearing masks," Norman said, The Sentinel reported.

    However, Norman's claim only appeared true because he manipulated his chart to create the illusion that counties following the mask mandate are successfully warding off coronavirus.
    Norman used an axis with a range of 15 to 25 to describe the number of new cases in masked counties and used a range of 4 to 14 to describe the number of new cases in counties without a mask mandate, making it appear as though counties without a mask mandate had more cases. When the two sets of data are placed on a chart with the same axis, counties without a mask mandate have fewer new cases per day than counties with a mask mandate.
    "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

    Originally posted by SAN compnerd
    When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.
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    StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
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    No surprise here.
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    • #3
      LBDamned
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      • Feb 2011
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      The whole has been agenda driven from the start...

      No amount of ta-da should be surprising.
      "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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      • #4
        sd_shooter
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        • Dec 2008
        • 13685

        But... But... Science! Fauci said!! The vaccine!

        The leftists would rather see world burn than speak the truth.

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          Garand Hunter
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          • Feb 2016
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          Business as usual regarding the bug and masks.

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            Wherryj
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            • Mar 2010
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            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
            Top state official caught using 'doctored' chart, data to push face mask mandate

            https://www.theblaze.com/news/top-st...e-mask-mandate
            Not having an axis that starts at zero ("truncating") or not using the same scale are one of the FIRST tricks that physicians are supposed to be taught about falsifying data in studies.

            Do some graphs look fishy to you? There's probably a good reason. Here are 5 ways writers use misleading graphs to manipulate you.




            Note that this is merely mentioning truncation of the graph. This POS actually took it a step further by changing where the truncation occurred to maximize the effect. That is CLEAR intent to defraud.
            "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
            -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
            "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
            I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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            • #7
              ACfixer
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              • Feb 2012
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              ^^^ Man so many people do not understand that Wherryj, great post.
              Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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                SAN compnerd
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                • May 2009
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                Originally posted by Wherryj
                Not having an axis that starts at zero ("truncating") or not using the same scale are one of the FIRST tricks that physicians are supposed to be taught about falsifying data in studies.

                Do some graphs look fishy to you? There's probably a good reason. Here are 5 ways writers use misleading graphs to manipulate you.




                Note that this is merely mentioning truncation of the graph. This POS actually took it a step further by changing where the truncation occurred to maximize the effect. That is CLEAR intent to defraud.
                There was a smart guy who's books have all been burned now who used to say if you torture the numbers enough you can make them say whatever you want.

                Lies, damn lies and statistics.
                "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                  theLBC
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                  liars!

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                    Dvrjon
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                    • Nov 2012
                    • 11327

                    1979 USC class in statistics.

                    Taught by a high school math teacher who said, “You need to know when you’re being lied to”. His textbook? How to Lie with Statistics. Page 60 begins the discussion on graphs.

                    I kept this little gem in my desk throughout my careers, and it made sense out of a lot of crappy data.

                    The book’s been around for 65+ years; Here’s an overview.

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                    • #11
                      Wherryj
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 11085

                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      There was a smart guy who's books have all been burned now who used to say if you torture the numbers enough you can make them say whatever you want.

                      Lies, damn lies and statistics.
                      Best version I ever heard was, "If you torture the data, they will confess."

                      The funny thing about the article I found that graphic in was using very questionable tactics in trying to make it appear that ONLY sources like Fox were lying with these sorts of tricks. Twisting reality can be done even without graphs and statistics.
                      "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                      -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                      "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                      I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                      • #12
                        LBDamned
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 19040

                        It takes naive people, for it to work.

                        That's the biggest problem we have in this country... too many (wilfully) naive people.
                        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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