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  • harbormaster
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2017
    • 5911

    So 300,000 by 12/1?

    heard them chatter about this on the radio this morning; the current projection is 300,000 American's dead by December due to Covid? Is that right? Thought the death rate was in decline? That doesn't sound like much of a decline? Curious what model they used?
    1. Compared to what?
    2. At what cost?
    3. What hard evidence do you have?

    T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.
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    elSquid
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    • Aug 2007
    • 11844

    NIH Cancer ( https://dceg.cancer.gov/ ) has a website with mortality tracking data ( showing all cause/specific cause for recent years ) highlighting excess deaths...

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    • #3
      five.five-six
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2006
      • 34806

      Originally posted by harbormaster
      heard them chatter about this on the radio this morning; the current projection is 300,000 American's dead by December due to Covid? Is that right? Thought the death rate was in decline? That doesn't sound like much of a decline? Curious what model they used?

      Unfortunately the whole COVID dempanic will be over on Nov. 4

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        smashycrashy
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 2999

        Originally posted by harbormaster
        heard them chatter about this on the radio this morning; the current projection is 300,000 American's dead by December due to Covid? Is that right? Thought the death rate was in decline? That doesn't sound like much of a decline? Curious what model they used?
        The model is the IHME:

        Explore forecasts of COVID-19 cases, deaths, and hospital resource use.

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        • #5
          JDoe
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          • Jul 2008
          • 2420

          Originally posted by harbormaster
          heard them chatter about this on the radio this morning; the current projection is 300,000 American's dead by December due to Covid? Is that right? Thought the death rate was in decline? That doesn't sound like much of a decline? Curious what model they used?

          The death rate is/was in decline. And then the protests happened and the number of cases and then the deaths went up as well. With the lack of compliance for guidelines to slow the spread of COVID-19, 300,000 dead appears correct. With a 95% compliance rate that extra 140,000 dead would be cut in half to only an additional 70,000 dead.
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            newbutold
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2017
            • 1952

            Since July 01, 2020 33,669 deaths in America attributed to Covid-19.

            U.S. total to date is 163,803. Hopefully we won't lose another 136,197 people.
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              smashycrashy
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              • Sep 2011
              • 2999

              Originally posted by JDoe
              The death rate is/was in decline. And then the protests happened and the number of cases and then the deaths went up as well. With the lack of compliance for guidelines to slow the spread of COVID-19, 300,000 dead appears correct. With a 95% compliance rate that extra 140,000 dead would be cut in half to only an additional 70,000 dead.
              Widespread re-openings happened which had way more to do with it. The number of participants in the protest relative to the population is quite low.

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                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34806

                Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                Yes, because every country on the planet is just doing this Covid Hoax until the U.S. election is over.

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                  duenor
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4617

                  Originally posted by smashycrashy
                  Widespread re-openings happened which had way more to do with it. The number of participants in the protest relative to the population is quite low.
                  That is very true at least here in LA. My part of LA nobody bothered to protest except maybe a small group of high school kids, who did a silent protest at their own school. When reopening first started I was hopeful because there seemed to be something like a plan. But it went from 0 to 60 almost right away because people wanted to believe so badly
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                    therealnickb
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                    • Oct 2011
                    • 8919

                    Don’t know about 300,000. But we’ll be $30 Trillion in debt by then.

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                      therealnickb
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                      • Oct 2011
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                      Oh, and just under 3 Million deaths.

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                      • #12
                        Bralowe
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                        • Aug 2014
                        • 734

                        Absolutely politically driven BS.

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                        • #13
                          Mike512usa
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                          • Apr 2016
                          • 208

                          Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                          Yes, because every country on the planet is just doing this Covid Hoax until the U.S. election is over.
                          No, but they are definitely over hyping and over inflating the statistics.

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                            harbormaster
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 5911

                            quite partisan

                            Why does that remind me of the narrative you don't need masks the people in the hospital (workers) do? This is a hyper partisan statement. First the media tells us look at the massive peaceful protests then they tell us its the re opening that spread the disease not that "massive" crowd. Fools are born each and every minute.

                            Originally posted by smashycrashy
                            Widespread re-openings happened which had way more to do with it. The number of participants in the protest relative to the population is quite low.
                            1. Compared to what?
                            2. At what cost?
                            3. What hard evidence do you have?

                            T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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                            • #15
                              titan
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 665

                              Originally posted by harbormaster
                              Why does that remind me of the narrative you don't need masks the people in the hospital (workers) do? This is a hyper partisan statement. First the media tells us look at the massive peaceful protests then they tell us its the re opening that spread the disease not that "massive" crowd. Fools are born each and every minute.
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