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  • #16
    duenor
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Mar 2007
    • 4617

    Originally posted by sd_shooter
    My FIL was in a care facility, they have been on 100% lockdown since March (ie. no visitors.) He passed a way a couple weeks ago due to other reasons (Cancer being just one of them) and MIL was allowed a short visit just prior to this. These places should certainly lock down.
    very sorry to hear about your FIL. very glad your MIL got to see him. we are lucky too, even though the hospital allows absolutely no visitors GMIL happens to be in a room with an outside window so all her kids and grandkids were able to wave at her from the parking lot.
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    • #17
      Dirtlaw
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2018
      • 3480

      You and your family are in my prayers.

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      • #18
        r739
        Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 382

        Hope everything goes well brother, will be praying for y’all...

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        • #19
          Squatch
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2018
          • 886

          My wife's grandmother (90 years old) was just released from the hospital Covid free. When she got it she wasn't worried in the least.

          She said "it'll take more than this silly virus to put me in the ground". Luckily for all of us she was/is in very good health.

          Good luck with your GMIL.

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          • #20
            ACfixer
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2012
            • 6053

            I am sorry to hear this OP, my prayers are with your family and I hope she recovers from this quickly.

            Originally posted by freonr22
            I Have been to maybe 30? different Skilled Nursing Facilities, different companies, and NOT 1!! has proper outside air, most have ZERO!
            Yeah, because those in charge of the budget never want to pay for sucking in 10% 105F ambient. A dirty secret around the high desert region in SoCal. OA dampers closed or even taped or pookied shut. Either that or the OA filter is 90% clogged.
            Buy made in USA whenever possible.

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            • #21
              duenor
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Mar 2007
              • 4617

              Originally posted by Squatch
              My wife's grandmother (90 years old) was just released from the hospital Covid free. When she got it she wasn't worried in the least.

              She said "it'll take more than this silly virus to put me in the ground". Luckily for all of us she was/is in very good health.

              Good luck with your GMIL.

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              Yeah, at least for right now we are all surprised by how well she is doing. No fever, not that much difficulty breathing. pretty much her biggest problem right now is difficulty taking in food but we don't know whether she just doesn't want to eat or can't eat.

              Glad to hear another 90 year old making through it ok, hopefully GMIL will be able to do the same.
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              • #22
                SW1917
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 791

                Hope it goes ok

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                • #23
                  Garand Hunter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2773

                  Prayers for her: Lord God Almighty, restoration of health we ask for for the lady, Christ Jesus name AMEN !

                  Psalm 1

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                  • #24
                    balgor
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1553

                    Hoping the best for your GMIL. Hopefully, it end up being a mild case.
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                    • #25
                      duenor
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4617

                      Just a quick update - I'll be continuing to add to the opening post. The purpose of this is to provide a "what to expect" kind of thing for anyone going through the same thing, although of course every case is may be different.
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                      • #26
                        bruce381
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2450

                        my mom 93 is in ok shape BUT hates to eat and drink anything so I started bring her a milkshake vanilla of all things and she says i dont want it then when i look away it seems she drinks it.

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                        • #27
                          Sierra57
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 5260

                          Originally posted by duenor
                          GMIL: grandmother in law ICA: Inter Community Hospital, a Hospital in Whittier WHMC: Whittier Hospital Medical Center. SNF: Skilled Nursing Facility. UTI: Urinary tract infection. o2: Oxygen

                          It is pretty well known that I am on the mask & caution side of this debate, but I want to be pretty clear that I am not sharing this to bolster one side of the argument or another. We can debate policy, and I believe we should, but in this description the purpose is simply to describe the process in as much detail as possible so that anyone who has to go through this has some idea of what to expect. I will do my best to answer questions as best as I can and will not be offended if doubted or questioned. This is the first close-circle person that I know who has tested positive.

                          On June 5th, the SNF (Sierra View CC) sent the family this letter. One resident member had tested positive. Another letter arrived dated June 11. An employee tested positive. The next day, another letter arrived, dated June 12. Two more residents tested positive. On June 13, which is the first time I was informed about GMIL's condition, the LA County page listed 6 staff and 3 residents. This morning, the same page listed 7 and 7. Last night, GMIL and several other residents were sent by ambulance to the ER. None of them had tested positive as late as last Wednesday when they were all given a blood test. In short, when this virus hits an SNF, it spreads like wildfire.


                          SNF staff caring for GMIL 20 hours before emergency transport. Note the non matching PPE. It is possible staff are bringing privately acquired equipment.


                          06.13 GMIL has a fever and is unable to keep food or water down. at this point the family asked me to be the primary medical contact. Lung scan in the afternoon showed no lesions and blood test a few days prior was negative for COVID19. The SNF ordered everyone tested for COVID19 again on 06.13 evening. GMIL is 90 years old. Only pre existing health issues are weak legs and advanced age.

                          06.14 GMIL's fever subsided but she began having difficulty breathing. 06.14 10AM blood pressure dropped. Her daughter begged staff to have a doctor look at her. When an nurse came to meet with the daughter, GMIL has cardiac arrest. the nurse determined that it was time to call 911. GMIL was taken to a nearby hospital, ICA Hospital.
                          06.14 afternoon. Fever gone. On o2 but no ventilator. diagnosed with UTI, pneumonia, low blood pressure, lowered blood o2. troponin levels in blood high, indicating possible recent heart damage. given azrith + another antibiotic for the pneumonia and the for the UTI. at this point she is assumed positive but maybe not.
                          06.14 evening, transferred to Whittier Hospital MC. Fever still gone. breathing better, o2 is reduced. same treatment. can track movement with eyes but no speech and very weak body movement.

                          06.15 morning. breathing improved again. heart tests ordered due to high troponin levels. more alert. eyes open when awake now. tries to cooperate with nurses attempting to move & feed her. same treatment in terms of antibiotics.
                          06.15 evening, 10:30PM. breathing more improved, o2 reduced again. echocardiogram came back with OK results. blood pressure now near normal. blood o2 stead at 95-98% using a rebreather type o2 supply; staff determined non rebreather no longer needed and not worth risks. temperature good. test for COVID19 comes back and is confirmed positive. staff at both ICA and WH inform me that they are seeing other positives from SVCC as well right now.

                          I did not even know that GMIL was at an SNF because previously she had lived with her daughter. Since she is an in-law I do not see her all the time like my parents or wife's parents, but still this is someone who I'd see at all the big family get togethers. obviously she is high risk due to age. it is not good that she is fighting two infections from two different bugs at the same time. but we are glad that at least for now she is doing as well as could be hoped for.

                          06.16 morning. breathing still good. nurses hope to remove her from o2 later today or tomorrow. no fever. still on the two antibiotics. blood o2 good, hydration good (saline iv). very weak, can't move much or talk, but appears aware of surroundings. poor appetite; not sure if that is a symptom of the disease. informed that the SNF will likely not take her back unless she tests clear twice and after 14 days. this will present some difficulty as we are not sure what will happen to her as a result. cross that bridge when we get to it.
                          06.16 evening. same. breathing improved, now on 4L o2. food now becoming a problem. she can't or won't eat more than 1/4 of what's given her. decision regarding feeding tube may need to be made soon, with major consequences either way.

                          06.17 day. The best man at my wedding was found dead this morning. The guy was awesome, we would go buying guns and shooting and fishing together. he was 1 month shy of 33. I hope it was not COVID19 related. He drank and smoked like a russian out of the movies, but those were his only preexisting conditions. Anyway. GMIL the same. No change. Just hanging in there. For how long, who knows. I got the family together and we have submitted a DNR. Hospital suggests we make familiar food at home and bring it to her. We are to give a sealed container to the security guard who will bring it up. don't bother with spices since she can't smell anyway. but at least the sight might be comforting.

                          06.18. family members were able to drop off a container of pureed food from home, sealed. a note with name, room & bed, and the contents was clearly labled on the front of the bag. given to security guard who took it up. no one got within 6 feet of each other. walk up, put down, step back. family members went with face, eyes, covered up. they are anxious to not add to an already bad situation. I looked up the LA county stats this morning. I have to say LA is doing a really good job with tracing. you can really get a handle on how bad the situation is. not perfect at all, not accurate at all, but close. remember on the 16th stats listed 7 staff / 7 residents sick, 0 deaths. today it looks like this, and I expect there are quite a bit more uncounted. that is 3x more residents in just 2 days, and 1 more staff.
                          If my son in law's 95 year old grandma can beat COVID 19, your GMIL can do it too!
                          ... The liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
                          * Creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
                          * Satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
                          * Augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
                          * Rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government

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                          • #28
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34834

                            Sorry, I’m a jerk but currently has the better of me, what’s the story with your best man?

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                            • #29
                              CAL.BAR
                              CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5632

                              I am really sorry to hear this op. MAYBE some of the folks around here will STOP with the conspiracy nonsense and STFU and wear their masks and keep their distance instead of misreading and making up statistics to justify ignoring this deadly pandemic.

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                              • #30
                                duenor
                                Vendor/Retailer
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 4617

                                Originally posted by five.five-six
                                Sorry, I’m a jerk but currently has the better of me, what’s the story with your best man?
                                That's not being a jerk, thanks for asking. Really, I don't know. This guy was 300# 6'4", hungarian, strong as a bull. hiked, camped, hunted, fished, shot guns, drank, smoked, lived life and he was only 32.

                                the story is that he just went to sleep drunk and didn't wake up. the only condition he had was sleep apnea. it is bloody devastating to me and to all of his friends because he was such an awesome guy. one time, years ago, he had a cold with a fever and he still drove two hours to help me move.

                                the family is deep in mourning and isn't offering any information so I can't see my buddy, don't even know where he is. i'm planning to drive over to his mom's house this weekend, masked up and all, and politely ask if they will mind if I can pay my respects, at least leave some flowers, help with the funeral expenses. like i said to my wife, 2020 is one f'ed up year. if you saw my other thread in gen discussion I'm trying to figure out how the gun transfers will go so when i get there i can give htem all the forms, with clear instructions so they don't have to worry about what to do.

                                as for my GMIL... while I do want to stress that she is right at the very highest risk category, the fact that a virus can run rampant like that through both residents and staff alike - remember staff are young healthy people who did in fact wear PPE, although before they got cases they weren't using enough of it, just surgical masks. that is nuts. from one case on june 5 to 32 this evening, and all of those 31 cases happened in the last 3 days. and now that they are transferring all the sick residents back to the SNF, while still infectious - oh man this is going to be bad.

                                and you know, I had hoped in years previous that something like this would bring the world together. nope, not a chance. if fricking aliens invaded earth i bet all the world leaders would still be lying to their people and trying to figure some way to play the invasion off against each other.
                                Last edited by duenor; 06-19-2020, 12:44 AM.
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                                EAI IMBEL-FAL 7.62x51 NATO, CA Legal: $999 shipped www.entreprise.com
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