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  • Dan_Eastvale
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2013
    • 10068

    Overabundance Of Caution

    More cases?? So what??? Massive deaths or hospital admissions? NO....
    Cases increase... But red states don't reclose....National chains like McDonalds are chicken littles and fear reopening..Maybe they'll permanently switch to drive thru..Their choice..
    Graduation parties abound here in Utah.. Will be spending a couple of nights in West Wendover NV next week. Their pools and restaurants are open.
    I doubt that even CA will reclose.. Maybe San Francisco... the city that waits to die.

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    SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 11873

    Restaurants and fast food places learned that they can now reduce their building space to just a kitchen and food pickup area and have fewer employees.
    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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    • #3
      Scota4570
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 1719

      More cases are discovered thru more testing of healthy people. Those healthy people have been exposed at at some time and have antibodies or have some active virus. The result depends on how the testing is is done.

      It does not mean that more individuals are sick.

      Eventually, I would guess that we might have 70 million cases. About 20% positive. So what? It does not mean anything. The only inference is that we would be approaching herd immunity.

      The virus is innocuous or only mild to the vast majority of people who get it. IT is serious to old people with other health problems.

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      • #4
        Californio
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2006
        • 4169

        My buddy tells me that they have over 100 cases on vents in San Diego County, expats living on the cheap in Mexico but coming back when they get sick, not good odds on the vents at all, so it is still roaring on the Southern Border.
        "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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        • #5
          newbutold
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 1952

          Have fun in Wendover, stay safe.
          Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Robert J. Hanlon

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          • #6
            ERdept
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2009
            • 4698

            Originally posted by SanDiego619
            Restaurants and fast food places learned that they can now reduce their building space to just a kitchen and food pickup area and have fewer employees.


            Im sorry to debate you on this, but "restaurants" as you term it, are made up of large corporations and individual owners. My neighbor is one.


            They have not learned that to succeed is to have a reduction of staff and a kitchen.


            People are dying to have a social experience and sit down.


            The "restaurant" want to have dine in AND take out, as before. They are a business that want to have more customers to survive and thrive.


            The ALL want to have a dine in and take out. This is from the sentiments of two owners that are my neighbors and many that I've talked to that talk and hope to re-open asap.

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            • #7
              SanDiego619
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2013
              • 11873

              Originally posted by ERdept
              Im sorry to debate you on this, but "restaurants" as you term it, are made up of large corporations and individual owners. My neighbor is one.


              They have not learned that to succeed is to have a reduction of staff and a kitchen.


              People are dying to have a social experience and sit down.


              The "restaurant" want to have dine in AND take out, as before. They are a business that want to have more customers to survive and thrive.


              The ALL want to have a dine in and take out. This is from the sentiments of two owners that are my neighbors and many that I've talked to that talk and hope to re-open asap.
              My apologies, good fellow, I agree as I eagerly made my way to two restaurants that dared to let diners eat inside recently.

              Perhaps not restaurants - but fast food joints - have learned that they can get along just fine without a dining area. I've seen long lines at In-n-out and all other fast food places since the scamdemic started.

              I agree about restaurants, people don't only go there for the food, they go there to gather with their friends, eat, and enjoy the experience.
              Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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              • #8
                tuna quesadilla
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 5147

                Originally posted by SanDiego619
                My apologies, good fellow, I agree as I eagerly made my way to two restaurants that dared to let diners eat inside recently.

                Perhaps not restaurants - but fast food joints - have learned that they can get along just fine without a dining area. I've seen long lines at In-n-out and all other fast food places since the scamdemic started.

                I agree about restaurants, people don't only go there for the food, they go there to gather with their friends, eat, and enjoy the experience.
                Have those restaurants made public any kind of earnings report or other documentation about this? Until we see some hard numbers and evidence, nobody can make the claim that fast food joints can "get along just fine" on just drive-through and take-out orders.

                My intuition is that, even with those long drive-through lines, they're not making nearly as much money as they were before. I've previously seen figures suggesting around 50-60% of a fast food joint's revenue comes from drive-through orders. Do you think that the other 40-50% of customers are all happily doing drive-through and carry-out now? Is it possible that a significant portion of them have cut back on dining out altogether?

                Nobody knows the answers to these questions until some data is published.

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                • #9
                  SanDiego619
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 11873

                  Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                  Have those restaurants made public any kind of earnings report or other documentation about this? Until we see some hard numbers and evidence, nobody can make the claim that fast food joints can "get along just fine" on just drive-through and take-out orders.

                  My intuition is that, even with those long drive-through lines, they're not making nearly as much money as they were before. I've previously seen figures suggesting around 50-60% of a fast food joint's revenue comes from drive-through orders. Do you think that the other 40-50% of customers are all happily doing drive-through and carry-out now? Is it possible that a significant portion of them have cut back on dining out altogether?

                  Nobody knows the answers to these questions until some data is published.
                  My assertion was based purely on my personal observations, so it does not have the bedrock foundation of a scientific study. I would be interested in seeing single store sales for in-n-out since the pandemic started since they have had huge lines everywhere I've seen. Perhaps the overall sales have decreased, but the cost of diner room employees, liability insurance, worker's comp insurance, and lease space should be factored into calculations here. Maybe the sales were reduced, but other costs would also be reduced by not having to host guests. That would take a few years to play out, for instance, a "takeout only" store would have to be built, but we know for sure they would need fewer employees.
                  Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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