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  • #61
    CessnaDriver
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 10496

    Everyone is cheating anyways, they leave gaps to breath freely. It's a mask in name only. The bandanas I think are the worst. Do next to nothing I'm sure.


    "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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    • #62
      ajb78
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2017
      • 1441

      Went to the pediatricians office today, signs everywhere said masks required, they did not offer us any, and we did not wear any.

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      • #63
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        Originally posted by ajb78
        Went to the pediatricians office today, signs everywhere said masks required, they did not offer us any, and we did not wear any.
        You'll be fine. As will those that were around you.
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #64
          CessnaDriver
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 10496

          Data do not back cloth masks to limit COVID-19, experts say

          April 9th



          The paper was prepared by committee members Richard Besser, MD, of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and Baruch Fischhoff, PhD, of Carnegie Mellon University, and two subject matter experts contributed. It was approved by Committee Chair Harvey Fineberg, MD, PhD, and was peer-reviewed by seven additional US experts.



          Many factors at play in gauging effectiveness

          Committee members point out that research suggests that COVID-19 can spread via invisible droplets as small as 5 microns and by tiny bioaerosol particles as well as via visible respiratory droplets just by breathing.

          Infected yet asymptomatic people are of particular concern because the particles they breathe are predominantly bioaerosols. "To complicate matters further, different individuals vary in the extent to which they emit bioaerosols while breathing," they said.

          Because different masks have different filtering capacities and the role of droplet size on disease transmission is unknown, it is difficult to predict the effectiveness of these masks, the authors said. "The extent of any protection will depend on how the masks are made and used," they wrote. "It will also depend on how mask use affects users' other precautionary behaviors, including their use of better masks, when those become widely available."

          Those behaviors may reduce or enhance homemade fabric masks' overall effects on public health, they noted. "The current level of benefit, if any, is not possible to assess," they said.

          Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), who contributed to the paper along with Sundaresan Jayaraman, PhD, of the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, said in his weekly CIDRAP podcast yesterday that, because aerosols likely play an important role in coronavirus transmission, cloth masks will do little, if anything, to limit spread of the disease.


          "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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          • #65
            LBDamned
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 19040

            The only sure bet is to live in a plastic bubble... and if the "experts" advised it, we'd have loads of kooks clamoring to find their plastic bubble - and chastising others for being outside of a plastic bubble.
            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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            • #66
              Blownmotor
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1334

              Originally posted by LBDamned
              The only sure bet is to live in a plastic bubble... and if the "experts" advised it, we'd have loads of kooks clamoring to find their plastic bubble - and chastising others for being outside of a plastic bubble.
              Until someone comes along and bursts their bubble.
              History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes

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              • #67
                LBDamned
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2011
                • 19040

                Originally posted by Blownmotor
                Until someone comes along and bursts their bubble.
                You're right... they will freak the f out if you get to close to their bubble.
                "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                • #68
                  viet4lifeOC
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 4887

                  Originally posted by smashycrashy
                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...-wing-n1204551

                  Masks are useless!

                  Say no to contract tracing!

                  Testing is stupid!

                  Meanwhile the white house requires masks, gets the best testing and if someone turns up positive they doing contact tracing. For me not for thee.
                  Originally posted by meno377
                  Cloth Masks! LOL

                  You can always count on smash to lie to make a point.

                  Deceitful little bastard.

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                  • #69
                    smashycrashy
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 2999

                    If you’re wondering whether to wear or not to wear, consider this. The day before yesterday, 21 people died of COVID-19 in Japan. In the United States, 2,129 died. Comparing overall death rates for the two countries offers an even starker point of comparison with total U.S. deaths now at a staggering 76,032 and Japan’s fatalities at 577. Japan’s population is about 38% of the U.S., but even adjusting for population, the Japanese death rate is a mere 2% of America’s.

                    This comes despite Japan having no lockdown, still-active subways, and many businesses that have remained open—reportedly including karaoke bars, although Japanese citizens and industries are practicing social distancing where they can. Nor have the Japanese broadly embraced contact tracing, a practice by which health authorities identify someone who has been infected and then attempt to identify everyone that person might have interacted with—and potentially infected. So how does Japan do it?
                    ...
                    e is also the chief architect of an in-depth study, set to be released in the coming days, that suggests that every one of us should be wearing a mask—whether surgical or homemade, scarf or bandana—like they do in Japan and other countries, mostly in East Asia
                    There’s compelling evidence that Japan, Hong Kong, and other East Asian locales are doing it right and we should really, truly mask up—fast.

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                    • #70
                      Hammertime
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 3495

                      Vanity Fair hahahhahahahahah

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                      • #71
                        theLBC
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 6152

                        the media all wear masks....

                        UNTIL THE CAMERAS ARE OFF

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                        • #72
                          Den60
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 2695

                          This is really effective in stopping the spread of this and other viruses:





                          Mojave Lever Crew Member

                          "It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day. Every day it is time for us to agree that there are things and tools that are available to us to slow this thing down." - Kamala "Heels Up" Harris

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                          • #73
                            CessnaDriver
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 10496

                            I’d bet the most vocal advocates still cheat, leave that gap to breath easy.


                            "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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                            • #74
                              smashycrashy
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 2999

                              Originally posted by Hammertime
                              Vanity Fair hahahhahahahahah
                              I guess some people cant read and understand the quote was referencing a study..

                              The study in question:


                              Another study:




                              It bears repeating that our model results are consistent with the idea that face masks, while no panacea, may synergize with other non-pharmaceutical control measures and should be used in combination with and not in lieu of these.

                              ...

                              Masks alone, unless they are highly effective and nearly universal, may have only a small effect (but still nontrivial, in terms of absolute lives saved) in more severe epidemics, such as the ongoing epidemic in New York state. However, the relative benefit to general masks use may increase with other decreases in β0, such that masks can synergize with other public health measures. Thus, it is important that masks not be viewed as an alternative, but as a com- plement, to other public health control measures (including non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as social distancing, self-isolation etc.). Delaying mask adoption is also detrimental. These factors together indicate that even in areas or states where the COVID-19 burden is low (e.g. the Dakotas), early aggressive action that includes face masks may pay dividends.
                              Even a mask that isnt that effective (20%) helped.
                              Last edited by smashycrashy; 05-12-2020, 10:19 AM.

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                              • #75
                                five.five-six
                                CGN Contributor
                                • May 2006
                                • 34702

                                Originally posted by ajb78
                                Went to the pediatricians office today, signs everywhere said masks required, they did not offer us any, and we did not wear any.

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