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  • #61
    Transient
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2020
    • 792

    Originally posted by Bigdog68
    My county, San Mateo, ordered masks for whenever away from home. So you catch the $1000 fine if without a mask
    They have to catch you first

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    • #62
      Transient
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2020
      • 792

      Originally posted by [Variable]
      If someone can't follow simple instructions to avoid causing injury to others...



      It's only about 30 minutes of your day. Just wear the mask.
      No. If people can legally walk around with only a loin cloth on cliaming cultural or religious privilege, then we can walk around without a mask and claim the same thing. My culture doesn't recognize forced compliance.

      Furthermore, who says I'm injuring others? That's something ther plaintiff would have to prove. Very difficult to do if defendant is healthy.

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      • #63
        [Variable]
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2011
        • 820

        Originally posted by Transient
        No. If people can legally walk around with only a loin cloth on cliaming cultural or religious privilege, then we can walk around without a mask and claim the same thing. My culture doesn't recognize forced compliance.

        Furthermore, who says I'm injuring others? That's something ther plaintiff would have to prove. Very difficult to do if defendant is healthy.

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        Well since you don't seem to be reading the actual orders, San Mateo:



        7. Wearing a Face Covering is recommended but not required while engaged in outdoor recreation such
        as walking, hiking, bicycling, or running. But each person engaged in such activity must comply
        with social distancing requirements including maintaining at least six feet of separation from all
        other people to the greatest extent possible.
        Patience and fortitude conquer all things. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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        • #64
          Transient
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2020
          • 792

          Orders can be taken to court and ruled unlawful. For example, that happened in Virginia today with the governor's order that required indoor shooting ranges to close. I'll be your huckleberry.

          Btw, I was enlisted. Marine 0311. Also, my wife is a healthcare professional. Want to play the game now?

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          Last edited by Transient; 04-27-2020, 10:26 PM.

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          • #65
            [Variable]
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2011
            • 820

            Originally posted by Transient
            Orders can be taken to court and ruled unlawful. For example, that happened in Virginia today with the governor's order that closing indoor shooting ranges was unlawful. I'll be your huckleberry.

            Btw, I was enlisted. Also, my wife is a healthcare professional. Want to play the game now?

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            I was enlisted as well. I'm curious why you're leaving freedom to play CA games.

            But since you want to play, ask your wife what the state protocols are for tuberculosis. Something to the effect of:

            - No flying
            - No leaving the state
            - Limited travel in-state
            - Report where you've traveled
            - 6 months supervised medication
            - Wear a mask (the rule in NC)
            Last edited by [Variable]; 04-27-2020, 10:41 PM.
            Patience and fortitude conquer all things. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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            • #66
              Mr.Caketown
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2011
              • 7362

              Tag...because 711 told me i needed to get a mask or they wouldn't serve me today
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              • #67
                Transient
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2020
                • 792

                We're headed to CA because my wife is also commissioned. Our choice was communism (CA) or communism (DC). We're tired of Virginia, and originally from the western US.

                I will not ask my wife about tuberculosis. This is a COVID-19 thread. Quit diverting. Applesranges

                Btw, people with TB are only restricted upon suspicion or confirmation based on a test. I don't know about you, but I haven't been tested for COVID-19. According to the CDC, only people who are suspected of being infected can be restricted. Where's the suspicion about me? Answer: There is none because 1) I haven't been tested, and 2) haven't been around anybody who is assumed to be infected. If we're strictly going by the law and standing legal precedent, I get to be as free as a bird until qualifying criteria are satisfied. And, even then, it's only a 2 week restriction. I said it before, and I'll say it again, I'll be your huckleberry.

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                Last edited by Transient; 04-27-2020, 10:54 PM.

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                • #68
                  [Variable]
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2011
                  • 820

                  Originally posted by Transient
                  I'm headed CA because my wife is also commissioned. Our choice was communism (CA) or communism (DC). We're tired off Virginia, and from the western US

                  I will not ask my wife about tuberculosis. This is a COVID-19 thread. Quit diverting.

                  Btw, people with TB are only restricted upon suspicion or confirmation based on a test. I don't know about you, but I haven't been tested for COVID-19. According to the CDC, only people who are suspected of being infected can restricted. Where's the suspicion about me? Answer: There is none because 1) I haven't been tested, and 2) haven't been around anybody who is assumed to be infected. If we're strictly going by the law and standing legal precedent, I get to be as free as a bird until qualifying criteria are satisfied. And, even then, it's only a 2 week restriction. I said it before, and I'll say it again, I'll be your huckleberry.

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                  People can be infected with no symptoms. This is not news.

                  No internet tough guy points handed out here.
                  Patience and fortitude conquer all things. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                  • #69
                    Transient
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 792

                    Originally posted by [Variable]
                    People can be infected with no symptoms. This is not news.



                    No internet tough guy points handed out here.
                    Last edited by Transient; 04-27-2020, 11:12 PM.

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                    • #70
                      [Variable]
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2011
                      • 820

                      Originally posted by Transient
                      I'm not the one looking for points.

                      Prote can have the flu, strep, etc and show no symptoms, yet aren't required to wear masks. Ther numbers are showing COVID-19 isn't a real threat.

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                      Those are mild. We have vaccines and antibiotics for those common infections.

                      We wouldn't have 50,000 dead from those things in two months.

                      COVID-19: Approximately 206,811 deaths reported worldwide; 54,877 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

                      Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.
                      Patience and fortitude conquer all things. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                      • #71
                        SanDiego619
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 11933

                        Originally posted by Mr.Caketown
                        Tag...because 711 told me i needed to get a mask or they wouldn't serve me today
                        Are you serious? That was the last place I could go without a mask! These idiots. How much would it cost to have a pallet of beer trucked to my garage?
                        Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                        • #72
                          Transient
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 792

                          Originally posted by [Variable]
                          Those are mild. We have vaccines and antibiotics for those common infections.



                          We wouldn't have 50,000 dead from those things in two months.







                          https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...019-vs-the-flu
                          Last edited by Transient; 04-28-2020, 12:09 AM.

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                          • #73
                            DJD100
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 534

                            Originally posted by Bigdog68
                            My county, San Mateo, ordered masks for whenever away from home. So you catch the $1000 fine if without a mask
                            No, the actual mask rules are below, and masks are only mandatory when you cannot maintain your 6' social distancing (like when shopping etc). This is everyone's best interest without a doubt seeing you can be contagious without having symptoms.

                            Who should be wearing masks?

                            Anyone over the age of 12, children who are younger are not required to wear them.

                            When should we be wearing masks?

                            Masks should be worn, anytime you are around people, outside of your home but especially when you are interacting with an essential service like taking transit or going to the grocery store.

                            "When you are standing in line or in any location that provides an essential service, " explained Mayor London Breed.

                            When can we take them off?

                            "If you're traveling in your car or if you're traveling with an immediate household member, you don't need to cover your face," explained Dr. Cody.

                            "When you are out walking, running walking a dog, that is not a requirement for a face covering," said Mayor Breed.

                            Dr. Cody recommends you carry it with you while exercising or going for a run or doing any physical activities.

                            What do people need to know about taking off their mask and putting it on?

                            "When you put them on just make sure it covers your mouth and when you take them off, just make sure you don't touch the mouth and take it off from the sides," said Jeremy Howard, a research scientist at UCSF who is promoting the use of masks on social media via #masks4all. He also suggests washing them daily or using them once, if they are disposable.

                            Why do we need to wear masks in public?

                            Howard says the more people wear masks the safer our places can be and the closer we can get to the end of the lockdown.

                            "We need to keep the population safe and slow down the transmission rate in the Bay Area," said Howard, adding that masks will help bring down the number of people that someone with COVID19 can infect.
                            Additional questions:

                            Can businesses turn away people who are not wearing masks?

                            In counties or cities where they are mandatory, you can report someone not wearing a mask.However, Mayor London Breed asked residents not to police others or shame them for not wearing masks.

                            What's the fine for not wearing a mask?

                            It depends on the county but in areas where wearing a mask is mandatory, you can be fined between $50 to $1,000 and/or face jail time.

                            Does it have to be a mask?

                            No, in fact, medical masks are discouraged. It can be any kind of face covering, including homemade cloth and paper towel masks, bandanas, scarf.

                            Note that currently the US has at minimum 1/3 of the world's confirmed cases, and 1/4 of the world's total deaths, so don't be fools and risk other people's well-being, just quit whining and wear a damn mask when you can't maintain your social distancing etc.

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                            • #74
                              SW1917
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 791

                              "that was 180,000 dead" of the flu

                              NO - 2018 had a estimated death toll of 80,000 from the flu - try again

                              Be interesting to see your NEW numbers -
                              Last edited by SW1917; 04-28-2020, 1:39 AM.

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                              • #75
                                L84CABO
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 8655

                                Cloth masks are bull****. A surgical mask or a N95 might help. But CLOTH masks are bull****.
                                "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

                                Fighter Pilot

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