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  • therealnickb
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    David Katz MD



    Gee, wonder why this guy isn't being heard? Maybe because he's not with a certain destructive agenda.
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    Glad to see there is push back against the #fakepandemic
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    ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

    Declaration of Independence, 1776

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      therealnickb
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        smashycrashy
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        Originally posted by therealnickb

        Gee, wonder why this guy isn't being heard?
        Asks rhetorical question and then links to a page showing him on CNN, Fox, Quoted by Cuomo, etc

        *SMH*

        That said.. if you think his idea is a reasonable one (I haven't really evaluated it outside a 30 second perusal).. it seems to instantly fall down on

        "Routine, mobile testing" & "Digital health monitoring" on the high risk group
        "Routine testing" on the Service Provider group.

        We simply do not have testing scaled enough to do it.. we are at ~5 million tests.. the high risk group is ~90 million

        Now throw in the service provider group...

        So sure... great plan when you can do the steps provided... I'm all for it.

        (note, it also says Routine testing, which means you have to plan for more than 1 test per person in the group)

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          SW1917
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          • Jul 2016
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          Originally posted by therealnickb
          Shelter-in-place; strict social distancing including from family members; strict personal sanitation routine
          High Risk: >= age 75
          Treated heart disease, diabetes- any age
          Medically treated or induced immunocompromise, any age
          Chronic lung disease, any age Other

          Strict social distancingRestricted from interaction with High Risk individuals Restricted from interaction with High Risk individuals
          *risk categories to be defined, updated, promulgated to public by suitable authorities- e.g., CDC, NIH, WHO, etc. Similarly, recommended practices and policies for interdiction/risk minimization to be updated and disseminated routinely by the same authorities based on most current data.
          Just whom is going to be tasked with enforcement -

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            USMCM16A2
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            He makes sense that’s why he won’t be listened to. A2

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              therealnickb
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              Originally posted by smashycrashy
              Asks rhetorical question and then links to a page showing him on CNN, Fox, Quoted by Cuomo, etc

              *SMH*

              That said.. if you think his idea is a reasonable one (I haven't really evaluated it outside a 30 second perusal).. it seems to instantly fall down on

              "Routine, mobile testing" & "Digital health monitoring" on the high risk group
              "Routine testing" on the Service Provider group.

              We simply do not have testing scaled enough to do it.. we are at ~5 million tests.. the high risk group is ~90 million

              Now throw in the service provider group...

              So sure... great plan when you can do the steps provided... I'm all for it.

              (note, it also says Routine testing, which means you have to plan for more than 1 test per person in the group)
              Seems like he's pretty much in the middle of the debate.

              The "rhetorical" question isn't. A few interviews do not make policy.

              Since NOBODY actually knows what's what, whatever happened to "compromise"? Shouldn't public policy have a little common sense mixed in? Why are we destroying the financial health or our world over fear of the unknown.

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                therealnickb
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                Originally posted by SW1917
                Just whom is going to be tasked with enforcement -
                The same as those enforcing the overkill now.

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                  therealnickb
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                  Forget bills jabs at Trump. The interview is otherwise very fair.

                  Seriously. Watch this guy and tell me why he's wrong.

                  Last edited by therealnickb; 04-26-2020, 11:12 PM.

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                    SAN compnerd
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                    Why is it harder to get a clip of Katz with Mark Levin than with Bill mahar?
                    "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                    Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                    When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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                      therealnickb
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                      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                      Why is it harder to get a clip of Katz with Mark Levin than with Bill mahar?
                      No Idea. But in that interview, bill was actually fair. Despite the cheap shots at trump and fox, he actually sounded like a thinking person. I'm sure he took a lot of chit from the du types.

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                        smashycrashy
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                        Originally posted by therealnickb
                        Seems like he's pretty much in the middle of the debate.

                        The "rhetorical" question isn't. A few interviews do not make policy.

                        Since NOBODY actually knows what's what, whatever happened to "compromise"? Shouldn't public policy have a little common sense mixed in? Why are we destroying the financial health or our world over fear of the unknown.
                        His guidelines and the guidelines released by the White House

                        Look very similar.. it still comes down to having enough tests to get through the phases

                        He points to incompetent Federal leadership in his Bill Maher interview as well.. he's not wrong there either.

                        We have had terrible national policy and a bungled response. There isn't an argument about the fact that we are going to open back up. It is the the levels we achieve of new cases per day (and hospital utilization) and sufficient testing for contact tracing.

                        Simply put, we ain't there yet. We need a massive push for testing but instead it's been farmed out to 50 governors to manage.. it is ridiculous.

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                          therealnickb
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                          Originally posted by smashycrashy
                          His guidelines and the guidelines released by the White House

                          Look very similar.. it still comes down to having enough tests to get through the phases

                          He points to incompetent Federal leadership in his Bill Maher interview as well.. he's not wrong there either.

                          We have had terrible national policy and a bungled response. There isn't an argument about the fact that we are going to open back up. It is the the levels we achieve of new cases per day (and hospital utilization) and sufficient testing for contact tracing.

                          Simply put, we ain't there yet. We need a massive push for testing but instead it's been farmed out to 50 governors to manage.. it is ridiculous.
                          What's ridiculous? That you can't control the population of America?

                          The terrible national tragedy is financial, nothing more. Our electorate is out of control and feckless.. Nothing to do with medical issues. Unless of course you actually want the federal government in charge or our health care. Because if you do, this is what you get.

                          Katz suggested the testing should be done effectively. We can do that.

                          And Yes, Katz threw bill a bone regarding our leadership. AFTER he was goaded into it twice. He never once "pointed" to anything. You have totally mischaracterized what he said.

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                            smashycrashy
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                            Originally posted by therealnickb

                            Katz suggested the testing should be done effectively. We can do that.

                            While the country is continuing to scale coronavirus testing, Birx said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that "we have to realize that we have to have a breakthrough innovation in testing."

                            "We have to be able to detect antigen, rather than constantly trying to detect the actual live virus, or the viral particles itself," she added.

                            In calling for a breakthrough, Birx was referring to a type of testing technology -- antigen testing -- that is often used for rapid flu tests.

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