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  • #61
    tdp113530
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 539

    Originally posted by five.five-six
    "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." ~Tomas Jefferson


    It was the jack booted thugs duty to refuse to enforce that law.
    Jack booted thugs? Really?

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    • #62
      JDoe
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jul 2008
      • 2420

      Originally posted by Creeping Incrementalism
      Can someone give maybe a two-sentence description, so we don't have to watch the video?

      Setup
      Conflict
      Resolution

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      • #63
        SW1917
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 791

        Originally posted by SWalt
        Hope you aren't a lawyer! There could be a very good case made that a playground is protected under 1A. It is a place where neighbors assemble and gather to relay information and opinion. Those who care for children can't gather information and form opinions from neighbors?

        The argument about 1st amendment violation because parents meet and talk while watching kids - therefore it's an protected speech area

        Homeless urinate there - doesn't make it a restroom

        Drugs are used there - doesn't make it a substance abuse clinic

        Graffiti artists paint there - doesn't make it an art school

        It was a setup - they wanted officer to over react so they could get it on video - he didn't and she refused to comply so...
        Last edited by SW1917; 04-24-2020, 7:23 PM.

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        • #64
          Sousuke
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 3827

          I’ve got mixed thoughts on all this.

          1. Closing a playground makes logical sense at the moment because the virus can live on equipment and kids can spread it . (Though we just had 90 degrees at my area so not as much of a concern )

          2. I also saw many Americans in the modern age as being too placid, and a part of me likes seeing middle class women sort of standing up to authority. We all live mostly comfortable lives and it was nice to see a spark...

          3. But I feel bad for the LEO here. He doesn’t come across as power hungry, He is non threatening and trying to get through the situation as peacefully as possible.

          For me personally, I’ve been supportive of the shutdowns thus far, but as we get to May a lack of action by the government has my support wavering. I’m now glad Georgia opened up this week and I hope they don’t see a surge because they could be a case study for all other states.
          Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

          The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
          The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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          • #65
            Hateca
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 675

            Originally posted by Sousuke
            I assume she was immediately let go? I mean there was a local guy with a machete trying to break in to a house and all he received was a citation.
            If it were my house and I was home he would have gotten more then a citation, just saying.
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            "Those that don't shouldn't. Those that do should"

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            • #66
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34835

              Originally posted by tdp113530
              Jack booted thugs? Really?

              arrested a woman and her kids for going to the park?

              yes, really

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              • #67
                bigmike82
                Bit Pusher
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2008
                • 3876

                Originally posted by five.five-six
                arrested a woman and her kids for going to the park?

                yes, really
                If you can truly sit there and try to compare arresting an entitled Karen to murdering women and children, your perspective and your moral compass is beyond jacked up.

                This notion is bloody offensive, stupid, ignorant, disgusting and ridiculous.
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                • #68
                  Creeping Incrementalism
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1721

                  Originally posted by musick
                  Did you even watch the video? I only ask because your post was made 5 minutes after mine and its a 12 minute video.
                  Almost nobody watches 12 minutes videos, or even shorter ones, which is why _all_ videos need cliff notes!

                  Plus I have a Javascript blocker plugin on my browser and I often don't like opening it up or trying to guess what script to unblock to see a video that is probably too long anyway.

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                  • #69
                    Creeping Incrementalism
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1721

                    Originally posted by Sousuke
                    1. Closing a playground makes logical sense at the moment because the virus can live on equipment and kids can spread it.
                    Kids have always gotten sick all the time and passed it on to others in their houses. The cumulative risk of that over years and years exceeds the risk of this epidemic. By this logic, all playgrounds should be banned permanently.

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                    • #70
                      five.five-six
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 34835

                      Originally posted by bigmike82
                      If you can truly sit there and try to compare arresting an entitled Karen to murdering women and children, your perspective and your moral compass is beyond jacked up.

                      This notion is bloody offensive, stupid, ignorant, disgusting and ridiculous.

                      if you honestly think that solders first unjust order was to kill that mom and child? No, it started with kicking them out of parks and public places and forcing them to wear small pieces of cloth all times in public.


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                      • #71
                        tdp113530
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 539

                        Originally posted by five.five-six
                        arrested a woman and her kids for going to the park?

                        yes, really

                        The kids were arrested too!? Are you sure about that? You probably want to stay with the facts.

                        In your mind, is the German solider in the photo screaming " I SAID THE PARK IS CLOSED! "

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